Billy Corgan

I mean, just Disney as a global brand.

Right, right.

I mean, just the incursion of Disney into the world culture.

Do you think that because, you know, there's a lot of criticism of Walt's businesses, business practices, not a ton, but there's enough out there.

If you talk to the people who don't like the brand or, you know, they don't like the way Walt dealt with the strikes in the 40s or I can't remember what it was.

But is there a common thread because you have been involved in these big stories, whether it's telling the Lucas world and like, is there a common thread?

Is it is I guess what I'm after is, is this sort of the.

The tyrannical or, you know, the need to be Machiavellian in the business practices, is that just inevitable for the brand to move on?

Or is there is there another way to go about it?

Yeah.

Even with a special exemption from Congress at one point.

Right.

You might know this.

I feel like I know it, but there's a moment where Mickey becomes like a merch phenomenon.

And some man wrote Walt a letter and said, I think I can do your merchandise better.

Do you know that story?

Yeah.

He said, if you give me 50% of the business, I'll do it.

Yeah.

Yeah.