Billy Corgan

And then I want to study the things he had a hand in because I want to understand how you execute that dream into reality.

Because ultimately, if you're an artist, you have to navigate somebody's idea of what success is, somebody's idea of financing is, you know, there's always this uneasy relationship between artists and kings.

And in your own family story with your grandfather, you know, he was part of the origination of this incredible dream.

left, came back, and then, you know, had a significant contribution.

So, you know, part of that is, you know, that relationship between, and that's why I ask about credit, is like, is it important that people know your grandfather's name, including your father's name, because they're part of this story?

Or is it ultimately just about if people are happy?

And I know it's a bit of a dreamy question.

Yeah.

It's my own personal fascination.

Yeah.

I apologize.

I'm not trying to put anything on you.

as a team effort that's why i said i'm the nerd who when i first started seeing your grandfather's name and a lot of disney stuff i thought well i need to know his story too so i took it upon myself to learn you know what's called cursory knowledge but learn about you know his contribution and i started to realize there's this whole phalanx of people around walt that um you know it happens a lot with rock and roll you know what do they say success has many masters and failure has but one um so last thing i want to ask you is because you know uh

Growing up in Chicago, a place like Disneyland, a place like the Disney Studios, it's like it is magical.

And I believe it's magical.

But it's also the idea of like, wow, what it must have been like to be a kid wandering around, you know, in the Disney Studio.

But you have those experiences.

You were actually on movie sets and you saw things happening.

And so if you could just talk about it, it's just to me, it's fascinating.

Yeah.