Billy Corgan

Of the three, you know, apocryphal whole records, the first one really is pure Courtney and Eric.

And L.A.

And L.A.

and Jumbo's Clown Room and Courtney bashing her way through saying, I don't know what I'm doing, but intuitively I'm here.

and Jumbo's Clown Room and Courtney bashing her way through saying, I don't know what I'm doing, but intuitively I'm here.

I'm loud.

I'm loud.

And, you know, even, you know, convincing Kim Gordon, my favorite, non-favorite person in the world.

And, you know, even, you know, convincing Kim Gordon, my favorite, non-favorite person in the world.

To produce.

To produce.

I said, why'd you get Kim Gordon to produce?

I said, why'd you get Kim Gordon to produce?

Because I won't get a bad record review.

Because I won't get a bad record review.

I said, how much?

I said, how much?

She goes, I had to give Kim Gordon six grand and a bunch of pot.

She goes, I had to give Kim Gordon six grand and a bunch of pot.

The entire calculus of sleeping with critics, working with Sonic Youth, she was going to get her way through no matter what.