Biz Nasty

No, I mean, yeah, that's the thing.

You just mentioned that we try to like keep it positive because we're trying to be an escape for people to come and enjoy time.

And I mean, like there's a reason that we wanted you to come on and talk about this one because you've lived it through experience.

And we also like, I mean, I could speak on behalf of all the guys, like we really appreciate your vulnerability because I think that that's what it takes in order to have like a true conversation about this.

And

I don't know how many people are willing to put themselves out there the way that you are, Michael.

So, one, we thank you for that.

And I just, like, anytime that I've personally dealt with it, I've had people, like, maybe say, hey, try this medication.

I don't want to get on anything.

I try to deal with things the natural way.

Do you find that, like...

moving and getting exercise and doing things and kind of getting these small victories helps way more than maybe any type of substance would.

More about being like, like present rather than being in the hamster wheel.

Cause you mentioned when you're going through stuff, you kind of just sit on the couch and maybe you let things fester where, you know, typically I find the same thing too.

Whenever I'm going through stints, I tend to just kind of sit around and I'm not as active or doing things.

No, no, no.

We're not in a rush.

I know.

I was going to mention that.

Like, TSN, you got... It was... Here, like, we could talk for another 20 minutes.