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Bjørn Lomborg

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

A lot of electric cars are bought as second cars in the US.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

So we used to think that they were driven almost as much as a regular car.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

It turns out that they're more likely driven less than half as much as regular cars.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

So, you know, 89% of all Americans who have an electric car also have a real car that they use for the long trips.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

And then they use the electric car for short trips.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

89

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

89%, yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

So, so the, the point here is that, that it has, it's one of these things that become more sort of a virtue signal and thing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

And again, look, once electric cars are sufficiently cheap that people will want to buy them, that's great.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

And, and they will, you know, do some good for the environment.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

But in reality, what we should be focusing on is instead of getting people electric cars in rich countries, where because we're subsidizing typically in many countries, you actually get a sort of sliding scale.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

You get more subsidy the more expensive it is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

We sort of subsidize this to very rich people to buy very large Teslas to drive around in.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

Whereas what we should be focusing on is perhaps getting electric motorcycles in third world developing cities.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

where they would do a lot more good.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

They can actually go as far as you need.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

There's no worry about running out of them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

And they would obviously, they're much, much more polluting, just air pollution wise.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

And they're much cheaper and they use very little battery.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin

So it's about getting our senses right, but the electric car is not a conversation about is it technically a really good or is it a somewhat good insight.