Blake

When we know, because we've lived through it many times, that if you did turn this case around in terms of who was the stabber and who was the stabby, that it would be number one story in the country and relentlessly politicized and relentlessly racialized. Let's get, I want to get Andrew in on this.

When we know, because we've lived through it many times, that if you did turn this case around in terms of who was the stabber and who was the stabby, that it would be number one story in the country and relentlessly politicized and relentlessly racialized. Let's get, I want to get Andrew in on this.

We're talking – we can go back and forth on self-defense argument, but the reason this is a national news story is not the finer points of self-defense law because unfortunately teenagers do kill each other in the United States with depressing regularity. Two things are really – driving what makes this a topic.

We're talking – we can go back and forth on self-defense argument, but the reason this is a national news story is not the finer points of self-defense law because unfortunately teenagers do kill each other in the United States with depressing regularity. Two things are really – driving what makes this a topic.

And I think the first thing we should do is to set this up is we should play the dad's reaction. So this is Austin Metcalf's father talking on television. I think the clip that we want is 202. Let's play that clip.

And I think the first thing we should do is to set this up is we should play the dad's reaction. So this is Austin Metcalf's father talking on television. I think the clip that we want is 202. Let's play that clip.

Now, what I will say is I would never question or criticize how a parent specifically chooses to respond to a tragic event because I think it's understandable. I think if you've experienced a huge personal loss, it would probably be traumatic and upsetting to have it be at the center of a national political discussion. I am entirely sympathetic to that. Nonetheless...

Now, what I will say is I would never question or criticize how a parent specifically chooses to respond to a tragic event because I think it's understandable. I think if you've experienced a huge personal loss, it would probably be traumatic and upsetting to have it be at the center of a national political discussion. I am entirely sympathetic to that. Nonetheless...

It is a pattern that people have noticed that this occurs a lot. It's happened a lot in, for example, cases where illegal immigrants have killed people. A lot of people remember Molly Tibbetts. This would have been about, I want to say, eight or like seven or eight years ago.

It is a pattern that people have noticed that this occurs a lot. It's happened a lot in, for example, cases where illegal immigrants have killed people. A lot of people remember Molly Tibbetts. This would have been about, I want to say, eight or like seven or eight years ago.

She was a young woman tragically killed by an illegal immigrant in Iowa, and her father had this thing where actually illegal immigrants are better than native Iowans, and we should not be angry that his daughter was pointlessly murdered. This sort of thing occurs...

She was a young woman tragically killed by an illegal immigrant in Iowa, and her father had this thing where actually illegal immigrants are better than native Iowans, and we should not be angry that his daughter was pointlessly murdered. This sort of thing occurs...

with disturbing regularity and people are like, why, why is this a moral script that so many people feel driven towards adopting of, you know, we have to be clear, anything that's happening, there is no political angle to this. There is no racial angle to it because that is, as we were saying, it's the elephant in the room here. There are a lot of.

with disturbing regularity and people are like, why, why is this a moral script that so many people feel driven towards adopting of, you know, we have to be clear, anything that's happening, there is no political angle to this. There is no racial angle to it because that is, as we were saying, it's the elephant in the room here. There are a lot of.

Precisely that that's the thought crime aspect to it is there are unfortunately a lot of teenagers who are accused of murder. And a rational question to ask is, is Carmelo Anthony getting arrested?

Precisely that that's the thought crime aspect to it is there are unfortunately a lot of teenagers who are accused of murder. And a rational question to ask is, is Carmelo Anthony getting arrested?

300 000 in legal defense funds essentially because he killed a white kid and some people i'm not going to question the motives of every single person who donates but is the idea that some people like the idea that he could stab a white kid to death and get away with it kind of like there were people who wanted oj to get away with it and there have been takes people were like this was our

300 000 in legal defense funds essentially because he killed a white kid and some people i'm not going to question the motives of every single person who donates but is the idea that some people like the idea that he could stab a white kid to death and get away with it kind of like there were people who wanted oj to get away with it and there have been takes people were like this was our

this was getting revenge for, for Rodney King or, or for the LA riots generally. Like, is that impulse manifesting itself? You're saying people who donate. Yes. Yeah. Some people who donated to this may be motivated by they like the idea. Could he get away with this?

this was getting revenge for, for Rodney King or, or for the LA riots generally. Like, is that impulse manifesting itself? You're saying people who donate. Yes. Yeah. Some people who donated to this may be motivated by they like the idea. Could he get away with this?