Blythe Terrell

That's a long time.

Yeah, he had to have people help him sort of pouring water in his eyes and stuff.

And we don't really know if it was worse for him that time because the chemical was stronger or the chemical was different.

It's possible that he was closer to it or was exposed in a different way.

We don't know.

And we did reach out to ICE to ask them what they're using on the ground and didn't hear back from them.

But basically, we know this stuff can cause, you know, the symptoms we're talking about, the tearing up, the coughing, even maybe vomiting.

You know, there's reports it can affect your heart, your lungs.

And T told us that where it hits his skin, it can feel like it's burning almost.

And A told us that it almost feels like a rash.

Yeah, I mean, not a ton.

So, you know, you can sort of intuit, right, that like you're getting sprayed super close.

There's a ton of it in your eyes.

Like you could intuit that the effects would be worse.

But yeah, but I don't think we just have a ton of research, scientific research on that that we know for sure.

Okay, so I want to talk a little bit about, like, the actual mechanism of why this causes pain in our body.

Okay.

And that can then send a message to our brain that's interpreted as pain and particularly that, you know, can be interpreted as heat and pain.

I talked about some of these details with Carly Taddis.

She is a neuroscientist and she's also one of Jennifer's co-authors.