Blythe Terrell

We don't have evidence that they're massively swinging the pendulum, right?

Even in both these countries I just mentioned, Belgium and Austria, it's not like their total fertility rates are now above this 2.1 level, right?

Even with these policies, it's not like it's like,

A total massive reversal of all these trends we've been seeing for years.

It's so hard to tell.

It's like, if you look at the numbers, it's like they sort of bounce up a little bit sometimes, and they go back down.

It's just, I don't think we have great evidence that, like, anyone has reversed things.

The decline in the long term.

With these policies.

Right.

I do not think we have great evidence for that.

All right, so I want to talk about a couple more big ideas here that come up in terms of policy.

Like this thing where you basically give people money when they have a kid.

And that's an interesting one.

Right.

Cold, hard cash, like a one-time payment.

Trump administration proposal is like $5,000.

And it looks like this kind of like cash for kids thing.

I know.

Do you like it when I call it that?