Bob Cicero

For us, it was really preparing for that future view.

And you think about real estate as that long tail.

That's why we started this five years ago.

It is a simple concept.

We and me.

That old adage of there's no I in team.

It's the we space because that's where we're going to get people together to accomplish the goals of any organization.

Absolutely.

One of the biggest things you heard after the pandemic when people were going back is, why am I going back and sitting at a desk on a pick your platform of choice on the meeting side?

Could be WebEx, could be Zoom, it could be Teams, et cetera.

They're sitting at their desks,

on meetings with people that are on the same floor.

Why are we doing that?

You point it to their meeting space.

One is they don't have enough Wii space.

You go into their Wii space.

It doesn't have the right technology for them to be efficient.

Thinking about space layout and how do I get to those spaces?

Are they on the other side of the floor?

At the end of the day, people are...