Bob Gymlan (Brian Gagneau)

Correct.

That's what I would say too.

And that's why they hang out over nuke bases.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But there's so many like that fellow who I can't recall his name, but he's like the most popular video on Greer's channel.

Richard Greer, Stephen Greer.

Yeah.

He was like.

The guy who would discredit you if you saw a UFO, he told a story about how— Alan Hopkins, that what you're talking about?

I believe so.

Yes.

Well, actually, I don't know.

J. Allen Hynek.

I was not thinking of Hynek.

This guy was like a...

self-admitted deep state stooge like he was the type of guy that would go out and discredit you if you saw something oh he would discredit you personally yes okay um so he would turn you into a fool right so if you went to stephen greer's channel and looked at the most popular video on it you would find it but he talks for like two hours about everything he knows and it's nuts absolutely bonkers find that guy and i really i believe you believe him you want to believe him right

This stuff seems so much more likely than the alternative, which is nothing.

Yeah, because we don't even know what they are.

I mean, I'm not even saying they're extraterrestrials, really.