Bob McMillan

Well, there's no evidence to show that she knew she was working with the North Koreans, but there's excerpts of her chats that are included in charging documents. It's pretty clear she knew she was doing something illegal. She talks about the illegality of, you know, signing federal forms and forging signatures and things like that.

Well, there's no evidence to show that she knew she was working with the North Koreans, but there's excerpts of her chats that are included in charging documents. It's pretty clear she knew she was doing something illegal. She talks about the illegality of, you know, signing federal forms and forging signatures and things like that.

Well, there's no evidence to show that she knew she was working with the North Koreans, but there's excerpts of her chats that are included in charging documents. It's pretty clear she knew she was doing something illegal. She talks about the illegality of, you know, signing federal forms and forging signatures and things like that.

At one point, she does DoorDash in Phoenix and makes like $7.25 for the night. She tries to sell coloring books. She tries GoFundMes. She just tries anything she can to kind of keep herself housed.

At one point, she does DoorDash in Phoenix and makes like $7.25 for the night. She tries to sell coloring books. She tries GoFundMes. She just tries anything she can to kind of keep herself housed.

At one point, she does DoorDash in Phoenix and makes like $7.25 for the night. She tries to sell coloring books. She tries GoFundMes. She just tries anything she can to kind of keep herself housed.

Even worse, yeah.

Even worse, yeah.

Even worse, yeah.

You know, it's funny. I interviewed the CSO of Amazon a couple of weeks ago, and he was aware of this problem. And I said, what do you do about it? And he said, bring your employees in five days a week.

You know, it's funny. I interviewed the CSO of Amazon a couple of weeks ago, and he was aware of this problem. And I said, what do you do about it? And he said, bring your employees in five days a week.

You know, it's funny. I interviewed the CSO of Amazon a couple of weeks ago, and he was aware of this problem. And I said, what do you do about it? And he said, bring your employees in five days a week.

I mean, you got to meet them face to face. Like, you got to bring them in. This is a huge problem. Like, there's no driver's license for the Internet, right? And it is basically impossible to really know that you are... meeting somebody who is who they claim to be, right?

I mean, you got to meet them face to face. Like, you got to bring them in. This is a huge problem. Like, there's no driver's license for the Internet, right? And it is basically impossible to really know that you are... meeting somebody who is who they claim to be, right?

I mean, you got to meet them face to face. Like, you got to bring them in. This is a huge problem. Like, there's no driver's license for the Internet, right? And it is basically impossible to really know that you are... meeting somebody who is who they claim to be, right?

So if you deal with financial institutions or the government, they have all these systems to sort of establish... Security questions, two-factor... Security questions, all this stuff. And what the North Koreans have shown with this laptop farming phenomenon is a big part of it can be circumvented by just hiring somebody through a gig economy website to cheat it.

So if you deal with financial institutions or the government, they have all these systems to sort of establish... Security questions, two-factor... Security questions, all this stuff. And what the North Koreans have shown with this laptop farming phenomenon is a big part of it can be circumvented by just hiring somebody through a gig economy website to cheat it.

So if you deal with financial institutions or the government, they have all these systems to sort of establish... Security questions, two-factor... Security questions, all this stuff. And what the North Koreans have shown with this laptop farming phenomenon is a big part of it can be circumvented by just hiring somebody through a gig economy website to cheat it.

criminals are just able to pretend to be anyone they want.

criminals are just able to pretend to be anyone they want.