Bob Pompeani

That's what I said.

If the potential, you have to factor in the unknown of not knowing what those three other guys are going to do.

You do know what Skeens is going to do.

And I think largely, you know, the Keller's going to give you pretty good outings every time after that.

All right.

What do you expect from him, then?

I'd like to have an ERA that's below four.

Is that too much to ask?

No, but I'm saying if he gets to 200 innings and he does that, I think that's a good year for him, and it solidifies one, two in the rotation.

It all comes down to the back part of that rotation and what they're capable of doing based on the potential they have.

It's got to be based on potential.

Do you agree with that?

Totally agree with that.

I think that's one thing that Ben Sherrington has done year after year is put together a pretty good bullpen.

I think Isaac Mattson was a big find.

He sets up Santana.

And you have some lefties out there who can really do some damage.

And I don't know if Barco's going to be in that role to start or Keedy's going to be in that bullpen, it looks like.

They sent Clevenger down.

So...