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Bob Wachter

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
553 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

And famously, he says, two ways, gradually, then suddenly.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

So that's us.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

I mean, I think we have the gradually part down pat.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

We now have computers, which is great, but we are the largest users of fax machines today.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

In the country, we finally have ditched the pagers after the drug dealers did.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

They were way ahead of us.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

So, yeah, we are very sluggish in adopting new tools, but we have gone digital.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

I wrote a book 10 years ago called The Digital Doctor, which was really about our transition from paper to digital.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

That book is a very grumpy book.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

It's like, how the hell did we go from paper to digital and in some ways make things worse, in some ways make the lives of both patients and doctors harder?

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

Just digitizing the record helped in certain ways.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

Got rid of doctor's handwriting, the kind of perennial joke.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

You know, when I do an electronic prescription, it can land at Walgreens or CVS.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

That is massively better and safer.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

Two people can look at the chart at the same time.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

There are lots of good things about it, but it was not enough to transform medicine.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

And in some ways, as I said, it made it worse.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

The giant leap really is the combination of the magic of the new AI meeting a healthcare system that's in desperate need of change and everybody knows it.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

We really are about to have our suddenly moment when healthcare is actually transformed after tiptoeing our way toward this over the last 10 or 15 years to make it better and safer, more accessible, more satisfying for everybody, both patients and clinicians.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

And I think eventually less expensive, although that's hard to ask.