Bobbi Brown

Well, that's wonderful.

I got so much from it.

Honestly, my experiences, everyone likes to talk about the last couple of years because they like, you know, there's not really dirt.

It's just the truth.

But for most of it, it was magic.

I mean, it was magic.

Leonard Lauder used to invite us to all of his events.

We'd sit at his table and sit with, you know, Elizabeth Hurley and Hugh Grant and Helen Gurley Brown.

And I was so lucky that I got to see Leonard before he passed away.

Oh, I'm happy about that.

So we had a three hour lunch and, you know, it was the most incredible conversation.

And I'm just really, really lucky that I got to do that.

For the majority of the time I was in charge, you know, until it became definitely more corporate and there was a new leader and things just were not about supporting individual interests.

brands and founders.

And, you know, that's what they wanted.

And that's fine.

First of all, if I didn't get fired, I'd still be there miserable.

So it's really good that it happened.

And, you know, it wasn't easy.

I didn't just walk out and say, oh, I'm going to start another brand.