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Yeah. Idris Elba, who was it a few years ago, is actually really a great pick. It's like, because he has a swag and he knows that he's sexy and has played into the idea of being sexy in various funny ways.

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I mean, half the guys on this list of past people, Sexiest Man Alive, were selling rom-coms or rom-droms at the time of their sexiest crowning. I'm looking at this covers through the years and I see Patrick Swayze. I'm like, yeah, like these were the guys that were like the swoony romantic leads. But it makes sense if they're selling a sexy movie to do that. And we have not as many of those.

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So it does make sense to me, sadly.

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But it's hard to deal with that because then you see across the whole internet memes about Jeremy Allen White, who I would argue that everyone's kind of like, he's not traditionally sexy, but he's so sexy. And I'm kind of like, we all agree.

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Ugh. I mean, I think because it's a visual medium, they're going for photos, they're going for a specific look, a specific traditional cover story.

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Here's how you get a sexy star. Put them in a sexy movie. All the guys that you're talking about, I can name a sexy movie they were in. I mean, Timothee Chalamet, call me by your name. It's written sexy. It's a very well-written, sexy movie. Barry, why is Barry a sex star? Because he full-frontaled in a movie. In a full, yeah. He got that title because he took a risk in a sexy movie.

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You know what I mean? Like then they're on the road to being contextualized like that. Also, they give you permission to call them sexy when they're in these sexy roles. And I think then we're very obsessed with, you know, like the idea of like not overstepping with –

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objectifying someone you know in this way we all want to be we all want to be doing the right thing so it's like when a star says i'm gonna go full frontal in a movie then i'm allowed to be like that's sexy you know like it's and it's fun and we're having fun and we're playing back and forth

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Wait, that's funny. Oh, my God. She's like, you're buying this?

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Yeah. I mean, People Magazine, they are going for daddies because they do love to be like, this father is a good father. They don't mean daddy in that way. That's what I'm saying is like, they don't even see that. Like, that's not a category for them in Sexy Man. They're saying like, we're just going for like someone who's a good family man.

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Yeah. Well, also, daddy is like gay terminology. And let's get some more gay guys on the list. Because guess who's going to love being called sexy and being objectified? That's right. A sexy gay guy.

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Jonathan Bailey, who's promoting Wicked, where he at? Right, right. So if we're going to be like where the daddy's at, it's like, we're already talking gay guy. Let's just like get gay men on this list.

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But what's great about the internet and the kind of like flattening of everybody weighing in is that even just a tweet can convince you somebody is sexy. Because if it's about context, somebody could tweet a funny tweet about Jacob Elordi being sexy in a certain way that gets you. It's like he always carries a book. That's sexy to me.

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And like all of a sudden my perspective on this actor who maybe wasn't my

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wasn't my thing oh he's too tall imagine saying that oh he's too tall all of a sudden he's sexy to me also you have your short king that is a that's an internet that's an internet creation the short king all right now Barry Keoghan who's a little short is now a short king now he's sexy it's just like it's just like a turn of even a turn of phrase can do it and that's why I think we're broadening because all I need to do is see a different context for somebody who I might not have liked before and all of a sudden I'm like fully on board right and it's just a matter of seeing that

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Thanks for letting us objectify men on your podcast.

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Mike, you got it. Are you big on Olivia Newton-John?

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Well, I am glad because, I mean, you trotted it out today, and now you're going to trot away with Brandon, right? So congratulations.

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All right. Well, that's it for But Did You Know? for this week. Congratulations to Mike. win. Thank you. Oh my gosh. And Kelly, Mike, thank you both so much for joining me today. This is great.

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Thanks for having me. That was authors Kelly Weil and Mike Rothschild. I'm going to take a quick break. And when I get back, after a long chaotic year, People Magazine finally bestowed us with the coveted sexiest man alive announcement. And we have some thoughts. What makes a universally agreed upon heartthrob? And is that changing? Stick around. Okay, first things first.

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What is your reaction to John Krasinski is this year's sexiest man alive? People Magazine has done it again. They have released their annual sexiest man of the year list. And John Krasinski has been crowned the sexiest man alive. Yes, the guy who is most famous for being your average good guy on NBC's The Office 15 years ago. That guy is 2024's hottest man. I'm completely unsurprised.

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The person checking me out at the register was like, this pic has been very controversial.

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What? I know what you're thinking. John Krasinski? Controversial? He's so inoffensive. Well, that is the offensive part. It's not that he's not considered hot. I just haven't really heard his name in any conversations about sexy men this year. Sexiness has actually never really been part of his public persona.

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This pic left me and the co-hosts of Who Weekly, Bobby Finger and Lindsay Weber, wondering how there could be such a disconnect between who the internet is thirsting for and who Hollywood is pushing. Has Hollywood lost the plot on who's hot when they try to appeal to all of us at once? And are we maybe actually living in an era where niche sexiness is more relevant than mass appeal?

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Today, Lindsay, Bobby, and I are going to break down some of this year's objects of desire and the forces behind those picks. Because who you think is sexy isn't always determined by you. Hi.

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It may be both. And while this isn't the first time we've had a hearing on aliens, it's interesting to see this at the forefront of our news cycle. Things like UFOs and Area 51 were typically reserved for the more fringe part of the internet and our culture, but we seem to be willing to engage in theories like this more and more. It's not just UFOs, it's vaccine doubt.

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Yes. Oh, the best reason. I'm not going to necessarily name names from the past few years, but I think we can all agree that some of the recent Sexiest Man Alive picks are people who don't necessarily feel culturally relevant for their sexiness that year. But also like over the past like 40 years, I mean, there's only ever been four black men named Sexiest Man Alive.

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And one biracial Black and Pacific Islander man who is The Rock. All of the rest of them were white. Even in this year's issue of the 12 men who actually gave interviews and had little featurettes, eight are white, including John Krasinski on the cover. Three are Black and one is of mixed Latino, Middle Eastern, European heritage.

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I mean, it's not the most diverse bunch and not really a reflection of who our culture actually finds hot and who they're talking about.

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No, he's not been in anything sexy before. Exactly. I also, another thought that we've been having on our team about this is, where sexiness kind of is in entertainment right now. It's kind of missing. I mean, a study found that since the year 2000, the amount of sex and nudity in films has decreased by almost 40%. So sad.

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A number of picks for sexiest man in the last decade have been Marvel stars where, you know, no sex is famously the vibe. We're in an era culturally where there's perhaps less of an erotic charge to some of our hot actors because of the decrease in sex on screen. How do you think that affects who we see as sexy?

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Yeah. I keep thinking about the Hear Me Out memes on ex-Twitter.

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Yeah, where people post a person or character that they think is sexy in an unconventional way. I'll read one. Every guy's Hear Me Out is a 42-year-old actress that's still hot, while the typical woman's Hear Me Out is Predator from the movie Predator. I imagine that people is picking men for an audience of heterosexual women. Yes.

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raw milk advocates, election denial. And with the nomination of RFK Jr. to lead the Health and Human Services Department, it seems like conspiracy theories have left the fringes and entered the mainstream to open arms. So that made me wonder, what led to this moment where conspiracy theories have become a legitimate part of our politics?

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We all agree. I see a lot more people finding Jeremy Allen White sexy and opining about his sexiness than I do see about someone like Ryan Reynolds who checks all the traditional boxes.

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I understand that definitely they're looking for a certain type of square-jawed, crew-cutted, white American sex appeal. Or maybe not even sex appeal, but just attractiveness. But also sometimes when they choose those left-of-center picks... They're still not guys that women would necessarily find appealing.

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Okay, let's talk about some of the guys that audiences, the internet, and our group chats have actually been thirsting over this year. Let's talk about these rap boys for a second, okay? Okay. For those who don't know, this summer the internet fell in love with dudes who the internet says maybe look a little rodent-esque in a cartoon mouse kind of way. Again, this is not my definition.

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This is what the streets were saying, okay? The two Challengers stars Mike Feist and Josh O'Connor, along with Barry Keoghan and Timothee Chalamet. I would say that a lot of these guys have a different look than the sort of like usual... males, American stars, like all American jock charm. What do you think people are finding erotic about the rat boy archetype?

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You know, I feel like I can't talk about the hot guys of 2024 without talking about Dev Patel, who directed, produced, so hot, who directed, produced, and starred in the action film Monkey Man.

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I went to a press screening, okay? I went to a press screening. There were serious critics, all this stuff, to go see Monkey Man. People were screaming when Dev Patel took off his shirt. Fully rocked. People who were there in a professional context were screaming when he took off his shirt.

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Exactly. I still kind of feel like we're in a place with Hollywood where – AAPI men are kind of lumped together or kind of pushed to the margins. Like I think about like Shogun was one of the biggest shows of last year. And this is like an Emmy winning show.

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Yes, exactly. And also had a lot of hot guys on it. And they were not necessarily mainstreamed

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Yeah. Again, I kind of feel like with Dev Patel, as somebody who's done everything from a popular teen drama to some of the most critically acclaimed films of the past 10 years, if a white actor had done that, the response by Hollywood platforming this guy would have been way different than it was for Dev Patel. Totally.

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Kelly, Mike, both of you have covered and written books about the uptick in conspiracy theories, extremism, et cetera, in popular culture. But I wonder for both of you, What do conspiracy theories do for people?

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Yeah, I think that's a very good point about people's sexiest man alive list, essentially still being a legacy media project and legacy media is going to project and protect the things that legacy media holds dear. And a lot of that is shaped by like white supremacist beauty standards. I mean, at the end of the day, like... People is gonna people. People is gonna people.

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Okay, so I want to talk about daddies now. You know, George Clooney, Chris Maloney, Idris Elba. I wonder, like, what's going on? What's going on with the hot daddies?

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Like John Krasinski, as he talked about in his interview.

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Well, there are a good amount of, well, more than there have been in the past of gay men on the list this year. Yes. But I think part of the daddy gaze is kind of like the gay male gaze kind of like trickling into the mainstream. Yes. Like actors have aged forever, but the thirst for daddiness feels newer and also feels very rooted in that. But also I think that there is a little bit of othering.

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When someone's a daddy to you, you're acknowledging that they are distinctly different from you. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is our cultural sexiness sonar changing? Are our tastes in sexiness shifting at all? Not if you look at the people.

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No, you do not sound like you're being mean to Glenn Powell.

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Oh my gosh. Well, Bobby, Lindsay, thank you both so much for coming on and talking with me about who's sexy. One of my favorite topics.

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We'll have to do it again. We'll have to do it again. We will certainly be doing this again. Those are my friends, Bobby Finger and Lindsay Weber. They co-host the celebrity culture podcast called Who Weekly. This episode of It's Been a Minute was produced by Barton Girdwood, Alexis Williams, Liam McBain, Corey Antonio Rose. This episode was edited by Jessica Plachek.

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Hello, hello. I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident. This week, we're connecting the dots between UFOs, milk, and election fraud. I know, I know. How are all of these things connected? Well, we're going to find out with authors Kelly Weil and Mike Rothschild.

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Our executive producer is Jasmine Romero. Our VP of programming is Yolanda Sanguini. All right, that's all for this episode of It's Been a Minute from NPR. I'm Brittany Luce. Talk soon.

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It's like it gives them a sense of belonging. And also it sounds like a belief to lean on when they're feeling lost.

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Kelly, Mike, welcome to It's Been a Minute. Thank you. Thanks for having us. My pleasure. Okay, so humor me here. Do you think we're alone here on Earth? You think there could be life elsewhere?

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So, I mean, you know, as you both point out, conspiracy has been a part of the fabric of our culture for a long time, but also it's been a part of our political fabric for a very long time, going back at least as far as the JFK assassination. In the past, these theories always seem to be on the fringes. But if we think about Trump's entrance into politics and

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There was the mainstreaming of these ideas, like the Tea Party movement and birtherism in 2009, then stoking fears about Hillary Clinton in 2016 leading to QAnon, claims of election fraud and more, as we all know. How did Trump change the way that we look at these political ideas?

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Yeah, I think we would all agree that a lot has shifted as far as what I think is considered allowable discourse. To that point, we of course cannot have this conversation without mentioning the rise in influencers and celebrities who are wellness advocates. And the turn that some of that community has taken towards the anti-vax movement. Former presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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has touted many health-related conspiracy theories. He has implied that vaccines are cause autism, that COVID-19 was created to target people by race, and that 5G networks cause cancer. To be clear, those claims have all been debunked. But with all that in mind, what makes health and medicine such a hotbed for conspiracy theories, especially right now?

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When we talk about the feelings and the fears that undergird the appeal of conspiracy theories, I mean, these are like some real – human emotions or real human experiences, like fear maybe about being medically vulnerable or fear about not being able to provide for your retirement or to provide for your children.

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But I wonder, is there a future where human beings can let go of conspiracy theories or at least get out of this place we're at now where conspiracy theories are really, really mainstreamed in our culture? And if so, what would that take?

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Well, I got one last big question for you both. And I mean, I don't know, maybe the balance of society hangs on your answer. Final answers. Are there aliens underwater? Yes, no. True, false.

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Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. What do you think, Mike? As long as they buy my books, whatever. You know what? I'm going to have to agree with that take. I think that's very, very savvy. All right. Well, Kelly, Mike, I have learned so much here. Thank you both so much.

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You never know. You never know. I'm not going to lie. I'm not full X-Files pilled. I definitely agree that there's something out there. At least there's a good chance that there's something out there. And I'm not alone. Last week, Congress held a joint hearing on UFOs and UAPs, also known as Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. Not a name I would have picked.

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Thank you. And as a thank you, I'd like to teach you something by playing a game with you all. Can you stick around for a tiny bit longer? Absolutely. Great. We'll be right back with a little game I like to call, but did you know? Stick around.

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All right, all right. We're going to play a little game I like to call, But Did You Know? Here's how it works. I'm going to share a story that's been making headlines this week, and as I give you some background on the story, I'll also ask you trivia related to it. But don't worry. It's all multiple choice. The right answer is in there somewhere.

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The first one to blurt out the right answer gets a point. The person with the most points wins, and their prize is bragging rights. Are you all ready? Yes. Okay. To start... The highly anticipated Wicked and Gladiator 2 hit theaters this weekend, and many are comparing it to last year's Barbenheimer moment. It even has its own name. Glicked. Wackiator was right there. Wait!

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Wackiator is so much better than Glicked. We need to really talk to Hollywood and get you on the phone with them, Mike, because you got the answers. Thank you. But this is not the first time we've had a big sequel go up against a beloved movie musical in the box office showdown. My first question.

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On December 20th, 2019, the third and final installment of the Star Wars sequel trilogy, Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker, hit theaters to less than stellar reviews. But there was another star-studded Broadway movie musical fighting to take the mantle. Was it... A. Into the Woods, B, Cats, or C, In the Heights? Oh, my God. I'm going to go with Cats.

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All right, all right. So you both say B, Cats. And the answer is B, Cats. Andrew Lloyd Webber apparently hated the Cats film so much, he bought a dog.

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Listen, I know everyone panned Cats, but let's be honest.

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Probably for the best. Well, first point goes to Kelly. Great work. Great work. Question number two. On July 18, 2008, Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight hit the scene and folks were absolutely salivating for the sequel to Batman Begins. But the caped crusader was going up against which beloved Broadway musical adaptation? Was it A, Mamma Mia, B, Chicago, or C, Les Miserables? It was Mamma Mia.

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Okay. All right. Well, the answer is A, Mamma Mia. Mike, you were right. He knows his Abba. Yeah, you really know your Abba. Good for you. Mamma Mia did not win the box office brawl, but it is Broadway's longest running jukebox musical and ninth longest running production overall. All right. To recap the score, Kelly, you are at one point. Mike, you're at one point.

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The United States government was accused of conducting secret UAP crash retrieval programs. And there was even an admission that, quote, advanced technologies not made by our government or any other government are monitoring sensitive military installations around us. the globe.

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Ooh, so without further ado, the final tie-breaking question. I love when this happens. On June 16th, 1978, the sequel to the summer blockbuster, Jaws, swam its way back to theaters to scare audiences one more time. But it was going up against which coming-of-age movie musical? Was it A, Hairspray, B, West Side Story, or C, Grease? Grease. Grease. Yeah. And the answer is C, Grease.

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She killed it. She kind of killed it. She killed it. It was a great speech. She killed it. Someone brought this up last night and it wasn't until like Zoe won and then like the song won or something. And someone was like, has any speech mentioned trans rights? And I was like, okay, no, no one for Emilia Perez mentioned trans rights, which I found really interesting.

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But Zoe as first kind of gets away with it because I feel like there should have been some course correction. Like at some point when Amelia kept winning was like, wait, do you know what this movie is about? No, I don't. But Zoe's narrative is so kind of like independent of the movie. And I think maybe there's a there is sense to what Zoe did, which is like, no, this is my career.

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commentary needed moving on what i really liked is like she got emotional she sobbed she said my sexy husband she had all the elements we giggled like she gave us a giggle she gave us a cry she sobbed she spoke spanish like it's she gave it all it hit all the beats it hit that tone of like i can tell you rehearse this and i can and i can tell that you're also emotionally overwhelmed so like when you are crying i can't quite tell if that was in the script or if it's real like i think it was just the right tone i think it was definitely real she's not that good of an actress

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Zoe's husband and Nicole's husband have the same, like, stylist. Their hair is just so lush.

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Boo. Hated. And I know. He found another way to talk about his children.

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I'm being honest with you.

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I know that they're clearly like in love and they have a very functional relationship seemingly. But I was just like, why is every speech he gives about his children? And when it's about his wife, it's like my wife who gives me children. I'm just like, does she have any other skills other than like gestating? Like I was just like, this is such a weird way to present and talk about your wife.

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over and over and over and over again.

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Ever since that moment, I was like, I'm sick of this guy.

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I just didn't think. Lean in. You're so right because I forgot. When it started, he was working on a different level than he was in his other speeches. Totally.

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And then he was like, but one story. And then dumb anecdote about like my fourth kid.

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Yeah. His walk backstage after winning. Did you catch that? Like when you could really see his gait. I was like, oh. It wasn't a walk. It was a stalk. It was a stalk.

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Oh, for the animated short.

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I kind of like the anecdote about like we literally landed three hours ago. Like that was charming to me.

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yeah some of that could be Zegler because it was kind of like could be my queen it was just so much wicked standing and I was like look at all the wicked standing and then it was like Zegler and I was like are you just include I was sort of like are you just trying to include yourself into this or do you really care about him but then you realize like everyone must love this guy like you can just tell yeah I watched it on Broadway

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This had to have been happening before Amazon bought the rights to James Bond, right? Do we know that to be true? Yeah, maybe not.

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But what confused me is that when the other big tribute of the night was Quincy Jones and they bring out, they have an introduction. So it's like, we're talking about this man because he is iconic and here's why. And here are two people who knew him and blah, blah, blah. Now let's sing some songs. James Bond, it was like, and now? Doja Cat and Ray. And you're like, why?

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And here's Margaret Qualley dancing. Like, there was no context to anything.

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You know? Now she's a trillionaire. Yeah.

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Which they should have sung.

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Which they should have sung randomly.

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I started cleaning up a pan during the font thing. You like left. And then I missed it because it was so much chatter during. I was like, I'm missing something crazy in there. And so I had to watch it this morning to like catch up.

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And I heard someone say like, someone said something like mildly shady to Ray. Like doesn't have it. Saying it now doesn't have it. But it could have been like any gay voice from the other room. And I was like.

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A gay voice said doesn't have it about Ray. That tracks.

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Here's my issue with Club Chalamet. I think that she's fun when she's Club Chalamet. I think that it's like kind of an infectious adoration of this person because it is like you've got age gap discord. Like it's like it's weird. Like everything about it is like intriguing.

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But I think the other shoe is going to drop with her personal account. I think that every once in a while her weird, crazy personal tweets pop up.

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But I feel like no one brings it up and it's like we're having so much fun with this woman and it's like I feel like she's going to say the wrong thing.

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I just feel like at some point, it's going to collapse and we're all going to act like we were never fans.

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The Academy has spoken. Of course.

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No, generally? No, yeah, generally. Well, that's why I was like, do I need the correction? Because I feel like I'm a lover typically. Overly loving. I mean, I love to hate, but I feel like my average lover.

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I can be a pessimist, but not necessarily. I mean, I can be a hater, but lover is more general.

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Gotta be earnest. Yeah, totally.

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I was surprised that I liked it.

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I kind of – when I read about it, I was like, I feel like hater impulse was approaching. It's also funny because – But then I was like, I love this.

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And maybe that speech wouldn't have worked if the Oscars hadn't won. But I also think the SAG Awards were the right place for that speech.

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A lot of space. A lot of space.

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Great moments. I think starting with the performances was smart. So smart. Because that was great.

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So it was like, oh, as a sort of like tone setting, you're like, oh, I'm locked in.

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The Bond tribute low.

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About being Bill Skarsgård.

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I don't know. I mean, I thought almost all the speeches with the exception of like all the Amelia Perez speeches and the Adrian Brody speeches. I thought all the speeches were uniformly great. Kind of.

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Like surprising. I don't know. It was mostly highs.

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I didn't even mention Conan.

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I already forgot. There was so much I liked about the Oscars that I forgot that he crawls out of Demi Moore at the beginning of the Oscars.

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Or like Whoopi Goldberg descending into the Oscars dressed like Queen Elizabeth or whatever she did that one year.

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Oprah with an Apple Watch.

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I missed it, but Lindsay was like, I think she's wearing an Apple Watch. Oh, no.

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Christian Siriano, part of the red carpet that I did watch, Christian Siriano hosting the e-red carpet, but he also designed the Whoopi dress. Yes. And so he was discussing it as she was talking with the e-commentator. And he said the same thing. He was like, some of the commentator was, one commentator said like, wow, look at her. She's so glamorous.

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And he was like, well, that's the thing about Whoopi. She's glamorous. She loves her dress. She's glamorous. Let's say that.

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It was an interesting choice.

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I couldn't believe that.

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It was sort of like, I don't know if you're going to say free Palestine or not. I was like, what are you saying here? He didn't want to, he didn't commit himself to a side. So he was like, and freedom or whatever he said. It was like, people... Liberty. I literally just said words. And you could tell he like forgot that part where he was like, no, no, no, just a little bit more.

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I wanted the speech. I think both her speech and Adrian Brody's. Both of those speeches just didn't impress me.

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If you are nominated for an Oscar, you rehearse your speech 700 times at your house.

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And when they go up and they're like, oh, I brought paper. I prefer paper to phone. Sure. But I'm like, Mikey, you should have rehearsed this a million times. Same with Adrienne. Same with literally everyone.

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I didn't like it either. It was so wrinkled. Demi's was amazing.

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I wanted it. I wanted it. Well, like Glenn Close, she was too dressed for the speech.

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She showed up like ready to speak.