Bobby Grace

I've prosecuted all types of cases, serial murderers, gang murderers, hate crime murderers.

These two individuals were the most egregious actors that I had come across.

Someone who's not sitting in the courtroom is the actual perpetrator.

That's the thing about Helen and Olga.

the different defense attorneys ended up having adverse theories of the case that brought them into conflict.

And so the attorneys end up playing out in the trial the real-life tension that there was between Helen and Ogun throughout this whole nefarious plot that they had going on.

They didn't get along, and that spilled out

into their defense tactics at trial.

And I get asked this question all the time.

I point to Helen and Olga as being the two people that stuck out the most as the worst people that I've prosecuted.

She's one of the finest trial attorneys that our office had at that time.

She's now a judge on the appellate court, great at analyzing cases and outlining for the jury what are the particular facts that they need to pay attention to.

She's very good at that.

You never want to get too full of yourself or to assume because anything that involves human endeavors are unpredictable by their very nature.

And so although we had all the cards in the case, we weren't counting our chickens before they hatched.

Bobby Grace has a more colorful name for it.

The Saudi defense, which is some other dude did it.

And prosecutors all over the country, they know the Saudi defense.

And we spent a lot of time making sure that we are able to counter claims that somebody else did it.

But this kind of took us a little bit by surprise, given what we knew about the evidence so far.