Bobby

they can be DXI compatible or, you know, whatever, but that's in the weeds. You were talking about the 14. Yeah.

they can be DXI compatible or, you know, whatever, but that's in the weeds. You were talking about the 14. Yeah.

Sounds pretty cool. So you have found then if you have a DXI, which a lot of these companies do via deploying your guys's proprietary platform and you're tracking time waste, you found that a, there is an inverse correlation between the two that is measurable and repeatable and reliable. Yeah. That's pretty powerful.

Sounds pretty cool. So you have found then if you have a DXI, which a lot of these companies do via deploying your guys's proprietary platform and you're tracking time waste, you found that a, there is an inverse correlation between the two that is measurable and repeatable and reliable. Yeah. That's pretty powerful.

I mean, we all know it's true, but like actually proving that it's true is a whole different thing.

I mean, we all know it's true, but like actually proving that it's true is a whole different thing.

And do you find that it follows Pareto's principle as well in terms of effort? Like 20% of your effort gets 80% of your results? Or as you continue to improve your DX, is it trailing off or not?

And do you find that it follows Pareto's principle as well in terms of effort? Like 20% of your effort gets 80% of your results? Or as you continue to improve your DX, is it trailing off or not?

At the edges, right.

At the edges, right.

That would be worth knowing. It's even, I mean, I think it's, it's logical that that would be the case in almost any effort at a certain point you're, you're squeezing the radish, you know, but like what's the sweet spot for, for companies where they can put in this much effort into their developer experience and get that much out. Yeah. I think that would be worth knowing. Absolutely.

That would be worth knowing. It's even, I mean, I think it's, it's logical that that would be the case in almost any effort at a certain point you're, you're squeezing the radish, you know, but like what's the sweet spot for, for companies where they can put in this much effort into their developer experience and get that much out. Yeah. I think that would be worth knowing. Absolutely.

You could almost map softwares as a service on top of that sucker. I mean, there's like an offering for each of these. I mean, there's a whole industry around.

You could almost map softwares as a service on top of that sucker. I mean, there's like an offering for each of these. I mean, there's a whole industry around.

Production, debugging, incident response, code review, et cetera, et cetera. I just find that interesting.

Production, debugging, incident response, code review, et cetera, et cetera. I just find that interesting.

Another newish feature of a lot of cloud hosts are preview branches. That's another way where you can get change confidence. Netlify, Vercel, et cetera, they're providing a place where you can have your development branch and it can be constantly publishing to a preview page. on a subdomain, on a website.

Another newish feature of a lot of cloud hosts are preview branches. That's another way where you can get change confidence. Netlify, Vercel, et cetera, they're providing a place where you can have your development branch and it can be constantly publishing to a preview page. on a subdomain, on a website.

And so now you can both look at it yourself in production-ish and then also send it to your QA team or to your boss or whoever, your customer. I think that definitely helps with change confidence because... Previews. Previews are nice. But yeah, there's so many tools that overlap in these things as well.

And so now you can both look at it yourself in production-ish and then also send it to your QA team or to your boss or whoever, your customer. I think that definitely helps with change confidence because... Previews. Previews are nice. But yeah, there's so many tools that overlap in these things as well.