Bonnie

And then crypto was up a little bit.

I don't know if it's because of this.

And the second question is, since you mentioned all these big players, the DATs and the big institutions, how do we even tell if the bull market is ending if we don't know if retails are excited?

How long?

A year?

And people are just talking about it now.

When you make decisions, are you looking at the numbers and predicting what's going to happen next?

Or are we only talking about now?

What is happening now?

Yeah, that's one we're going to talk about later, but let me interrupt you there.

But how does that...

Well, why is that your approach different from, let's say, integrating with an exchange?

Because if the end game is everything goes on-chain, then exchanges are part of the big picture.

Okay.

I use Tron.

I want your opinion on Ethereum now.

People are disappointed.

They were happy for a few months and then they were sad again, so.

We've been asking that question for a long time.

Jack Mallers was on the show and he said something I still remember till this day.