Bozoma Saint John
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I just asked you to see me. That's it. That's it.
You know what I mean? Because I said, oh, no, it wasn't your idea. It was my idea. Oh, this is teamwork, though. Oh, really? You seem to be the only one in the team.
You know what I mean? Because I said, oh, no, it wasn't your idea. It was my idea. Oh, this is teamwork, though. Oh, really? You seem to be the only one in the team.
You know what I mean? Because I said, oh, no, it wasn't your idea. It was my idea. Oh, this is teamwork, though. Oh, really? You seem to be the only one in the team.
Glennon, can we also pause just there for a second? Because that moment also just needs to be acknowledged because when you and I talked, you said the thing that most white women don't say. You were like, how do I help your voice? And I was just like, oh, shit. She wanted to know how to help amplify my voice. It literally knocked me off my feet.
Glennon, can we also pause just there for a second? Because that moment also just needs to be acknowledged because when you and I talked, you said the thing that most white women don't say. You were like, how do I help your voice? And I was just like, oh, shit. She wanted to know how to help amplify my voice. It literally knocked me off my feet.
Glennon, can we also pause just there for a second? Because that moment also just needs to be acknowledged because when you and I talked, you said the thing that most white women don't say. You were like, how do I help your voice? And I was just like, oh, shit. She wanted to know how to help amplify my voice. It literally knocked me off my feet.
You know, because I was just like, man, I've been in so many environments, conversations with very well-meaning people. Again, I don't think everything is black and white. Things are very great. You know, people who mean well, they want to help and all that. But they just take your voice and then they put theirs on it and it changes. Then it's out and you can't get it back.
You know, because I was just like, man, I've been in so many environments, conversations with very well-meaning people. Again, I don't think everything is black and white. Things are very great. You know, people who mean well, they want to help and all that. But they just take your voice and then they put theirs on it and it changes. Then it's out and you can't get it back.
You know, because I was just like, man, I've been in so many environments, conversations with very well-meaning people. Again, I don't think everything is black and white. Things are very great. You know, people who mean well, they want to help and all that. But they just take your voice and then they put theirs on it and it changes. Then it's out and you can't get it back.
But what you said in that moment is what then led me to say, I feel like I'm just screaming into the wind. Nobody hears me. Then it was like, it almost became an easy solution after that. Yeah, it did. It was like, of course, of course, of course. You should just be heard. How do I put you on the platform so you can be heard? Exactly.
But what you said in that moment is what then led me to say, I feel like I'm just screaming into the wind. Nobody hears me. Then it was like, it almost became an easy solution after that. Yeah, it did. It was like, of course, of course, of course. You should just be heard. How do I put you on the platform so you can be heard? Exactly.
But what you said in that moment is what then led me to say, I feel like I'm just screaming into the wind. Nobody hears me. Then it was like, it almost became an easy solution after that. Yeah, it did. It was like, of course, of course, of course. You should just be heard. How do I put you on the platform so you can be heard? Exactly.
But it was such a fundamentally different question from everybody else. So we have to acknowledge that. That was not just because I answered, but because you asked the question.
But it was such a fundamentally different question from everybody else. So we have to acknowledge that. That was not just because I answered, but because you asked the question.
But it was such a fundamentally different question from everybody else. So we have to acknowledge that. That was not just because I answered, but because you asked the question.
Oh, man. This is when I feel like the ancestors or the spirits who are not yet here, the ones who are waiting, they just all came through. It really does not feel like... Our idea was just conduit to let it be born because it just felt that easy. It was like as soon as we just stopped, you ask the question. It was like a portal being opened. You ask the question. We went back. We were like, okay.
Oh, man. This is when I feel like the ancestors or the spirits who are not yet here, the ones who are waiting, they just all came through. It really does not feel like... Our idea was just conduit to let it be born because it just felt that easy. It was like as soon as we just stopped, you ask the question. It was like a portal being opened. You ask the question. We went back. We were like, okay.
Oh, man. This is when I feel like the ancestors or the spirits who are not yet here, the ones who are waiting, they just all came through. It really does not feel like... Our idea was just conduit to let it be born because it just felt that easy. It was like as soon as we just stopped, you ask the question. It was like a portal being opened. You ask the question. We went back. We were like, okay.
Because I was exhausted. Again, frankly, honestly, I was just exhausted. I was like, I don't want to talk to nobody. Y'all can keep talking. I'm going to be sitting over here resting my vocal cords.