Brad Gerstner

There's no one that can accuse us of IP theft because there is no IP ownership in an open source world. And so having dealt with those accusations for probably 40 or 50 years, I think everyone in China, the government and the entrepreneurs writ large, view open source as a very positive movement for their country relative to the West. And so they've been in on it for a long time.

There's no one that can accuse us of IP theft because there is no IP ownership in an open source world. And so having dealt with those accusations for probably 40 or 50 years, I think everyone in China, the government and the entrepreneurs writ large, view open source as a very positive movement for their country relative to the West. And so they've been in on it for a long time.

There's no one that can accuse us of IP theft because there is no IP ownership in an open source world. And so having dealt with those accusations for probably 40 or 50 years, I think everyone in China, the government and the entrepreneurs writ large, view open source as a very positive movement for their country relative to the West. And so they've been in on it for a long time.

They're very adept at it. They're very... they're very big believers in it. You know, when we talked about the interview with the deep seek founder, I would say he had as much kind of, uh,

They're very adept at it. They're very... they're very big believers in it. You know, when we talked about the interview with the deep seek founder, I would say he had as much kind of, uh,

They're very adept at it. They're very... they're very big believers in it. You know, when we talked about the interview with the deep seek founder, I would say he had as much kind of, uh,

emotional like his his entire emotional mindset was tied to open source like he believes in it and wants to support it so that's i think that's an important backdrop so i don't think china got there um in some calculated way or do i think it was some recent move i think

emotional like his his entire emotional mindset was tied to open source like he believes in it and wants to support it so that's i think that's an important backdrop so i don't think china got there um in some calculated way or do i think it was some recent move i think

emotional like his his entire emotional mindset was tied to open source like he believes in it and wants to support it so that's i think that's an important backdrop so i don't think china got there um in some calculated way or do i think it was some recent move i think

they embraced open source over a decade ago because it made a ton of sense for them in a world that had pointed a finger at them from an IP standpoint.

they embraced open source over a decade ago because it made a ton of sense for them in a world that had pointed a finger at them from an IP standpoint.

they embraced open source over a decade ago because it made a ton of sense for them in a world that had pointed a finger at them from an IP standpoint.

Right, but I think that discussion happened a long time ago. Like, it wasn't recent.

Right, but I think that discussion happened a long time ago. Like, it wasn't recent.

Right, but I think that discussion happened a long time ago. Like, it wasn't recent.

Another thing that I think people have to remember is that also within the past decade— And maybe 15 years, many U.S. companies have learned to use open source as a defensive tool rather than just an offensive tool. And this is a more. Yeah. So this is the biggest companies out there.

Another thing that I think people have to remember is that also within the past decade— And maybe 15 years, many U.S. companies have learned to use open source as a defensive tool rather than just an offensive tool. And this is a more. Yeah. So this is the biggest companies out there.

Another thing that I think people have to remember is that also within the past decade— And maybe 15 years, many U.S. companies have learned to use open source as a defensive tool rather than just an offensive tool. And this is a more. Yeah. So this is the biggest companies out there.

If they get in a position where they feel like they're behind the eight balls, so they're not in a leadership position, they will embrace open source as an attempt to level the playing field. And a great example is Kubernetes. So Amazon took this huge lead with AWS in the hosted server business. Everyone was afraid of that.

If they get in a position where they feel like they're behind the eight balls, so they're not in a leadership position, they will embrace open source as an attempt to level the playing field. And a great example is Kubernetes. So Amazon took this huge lead with AWS in the hosted server business. Everyone was afraid of that.