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Brad Gerstner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2793 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

It is entirely to do with the supply constraints that exist in data centers and specifically in power.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

If they had infinite power, I think that their revenues would probably be even more parabolic.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

And so all the breathlessness about either exceeding or underperforming a forecast, in my opinion, mean nothing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

I think the five-year view for those two companies is quite robust.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

The thing that they really need is more compute and more power.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

That's the first thing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

The second thing is while they need that, we have a very big problem, which is we unfortunately have very poor leadership at the head of most of these AI firms.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

I think they are coming off as untrustworthy or too self-interested.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

The political reaction now is starting to turn negative.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

The community reaction is negative.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

You have about nine gigawatts that are supposed to come online this year.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

Almost 50% of it now is being protested.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

More than likely, if history holds, most of that will get turned off.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

So they will get even more supply constraint.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

So that's the setup.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

So what's the opportunity?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

I think for Elon, if you look inside of how people try to nitpick the SpaceX valuation case, or let's not even, let's give them, sorry, let's be more generous.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

When people try to paint the bear case or they tried to red team the valuation, the biggest element is the on-the-come value around the orbital data centers.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

And by actually landing a bunch of terrestrial capacity, I think you start to blunt that because you can now start to say that even if the orbital data centers get delayed by a few months or a few quarters, even if the technological de-risking of it takes longer, he now has a structural core business that will effectively subsidize his ability to train Grok, which I think is a really important and underreported theme.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

So you have all this infrastructure.