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Brad Gerstner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2793 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

I thought that was so cool.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

It's a great pivot.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

What this company did originally, Chamath, was they did the power panel.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

They made smart power panels.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

So, you know, when you flip your breakers, all those breakers are in an app.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

I looked at it for my house, but I guess they pivoted to add this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

And I think BasePower, Brad, you're an investor in it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

They're going to do the same thing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

Tesla has that same Elon variable in it as well, which is people value his companies at, I would say, two times market, three times market, four times market because of the future pipeline.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

And they devalue Apple because they don't have somebody like Elon or Steve Jobs there who is giving them the future.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

I don't think it's devalued.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

Or properly valued if you don't have an Elon and you have somebody like, I think that's exactly what it is.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

We talked about this last week, but explain why you think it's different.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

I think all of these companies are actually very fairly valued.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

And then Elon World gets a premium.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

And that premium is because of what you guys said.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

That I agree with.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

The big message that I take away from this, which the markets...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

and retail are telling you is, you guys have stopped innovating, there's a lot of incrementalism, and we as a society aren't benefiting broadly the way that you told us we would be.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

And so maybe this is the best way for them to get this message, which is to whack their valuation.