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Brad Gerstner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1646 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

So this has, in fact, been a significant correction

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

in terms of the AI boom.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

So before we get into their CFOs comments, Chamath, I'd love to hear your just general response.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

Yeah, and this got exacerbated, Sachs, because on Wednesday, OpenAI decided to be in the news again when their CFO, Sarah Fryer, told the Wall Street Journal she hopes the U.S.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

government, that's you, Sachs, will backstop the financing of its $1.4 trillion in data centers.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

Here's a direct quote, the backstop, the guarantee that allows the financing to happen.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

And she said that the federal guarantees would, quote, really drop the cost of finance.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

Of course it would.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

And this would allow OpenAI to borrow more money at lower rates from a much larger pool of lenders.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

That went viral.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

And everybody said, oh, my God.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

It started feeding, I think, the narrative that maybe OpenAI is insolvent, in fact, and there's no way for them to pay their bills, which obviously is a little bit ridiculous.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

And people are trying to correlate this to obviously the dot-com bust and then the great financial crisis.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

But on Wednesday night, Fryer walked back her comments.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

I want to clarify my comments.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

OpenAI is not seeking a government backstop.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

for our infrastructure commitments.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

I used the word, quote, backstop, and it muddied the point.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

I was making the point that American strength and technology will come from building real industrial capacity, which requires the private sector and government playing their part.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Does OpenAI Need a Bailout? Mamdani Wins, Socialism Rising, Filibuster Nuclear Option

And she also said that opening AI was on pace to generate 13 billion.