Brad Hunter

It would be, you know, a phone call.

you know, with a sinister laugh or, you know, different things like that.

You should have seen her.

And so, yeah, he kept, you know, so he kept his hand in that way.

But even at that, the phone calls, I think, stopped seven years later and then nothing.

And I mean, the police hadn't even figured out

at that point, when he stopped making his phone calls, that these murders hundreds of miles away in Northern California, around Sacramento and that area, were

connected to these murders in Santa Barbara, in, uh, Ventura County and in Orange County, south of Los Angeles.

I mean, that's a, that's a long way to go.

I mean, so.

He took a hiatus then as well.

Um,

So, and, you know, that, I think, I think the turning it on and turning it off also may have thrown cops off from, from, you know,

saying, oh, yeah, that's the guy.

Remember that?

Well, they'd figured out that...

from just regular DNA that yeah it was the same killer because they had the data banks up by that same killer sort of stuff but it would be in some of these instances it would be like a needle in a haystack trying to find them Chloe like up here in Canada using the same method they used to get the Golden State killer

A cop I know who's head of the cold case unit in Toronto, Steve Smith, and he's one of the most famous guys for using this technology.

They got a guy who was responsible for two separate murders in 1983.

And he told me if it hadn't been for genetic genealogy, it would have been one in 10 million to find him.