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Brad Jacobs

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So if you can find a business that can grow both price and volume and productivity,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

you have ways to continuously improve the operations and grow your margins, that's a great business.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And I'll go another step further.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Perfect business for me, and this is a key point for me in every acquisition I've ever done, what's their turn on capital?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Because at the end of everything, that's what creates shareholder value.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

What creates shareholder value is you have a finite amount of debt and equity

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

You need to put that to use and you have to get back a lot more capital than you put out.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

That's what it's about.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And a business that has a high ROIC, whether it's in favor, whether it's out of favor, whether it's the fad, a moment, it doesn't matter.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

I've seen an interesting business, maybe not perfect, but definitely good enough and would love to buy it, but I can't buy it at a price that makes sense.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So the IC in ROIC matters.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So the IC in M&A is the purchase price and whatever you're subsequently going to put into the business.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

If there's CapEx improvements, invested, you want to grow it and that requires capital, the aggregate of your purchase price and how much money you're going to put in over the next year or two, assuming you're going to put in rather than take out money,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

That's your invested capital.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And that's what you have to generate a return on.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So the purchase price is very important.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And you must stay disciplined on price.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

If you overpay for an acquisition, you're in a hole.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And it may be many years of destroying value before you're creating value.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

That's a sin.