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Brad Jacobs

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It likes to have easy to understand stories.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Typical sell side analyst, for example, covers 32 stocks.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So they don't have the luxury of time to really go deep studying stuff.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

We divided the company up into one company that was primarily LTL, which is XPO.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Another company that was primarily brokerage, truck brokers, non-asset, which is RXO.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And a third company, which we were talking about before, which is the supply chain business, was GXO.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And now each of those companies gets EBITDA multiples of 11, 12, 13 times.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It's a big change.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So we unleashed the value from getting multiple expansion by dividing the company up into smaller companies.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So the multiple you get from Wall Street matters because it goes back to what we were talking about a few minutes ago, where you have your cost of capital, what you can raise money at.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And to put it in more simple terms, what multiple you can raise money at.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And then you have businesses that you can buy, acquisitions that you can do at a lower multiple.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So there has to be a spread.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And when you look at all the ways that you create value, and there's dozens and dozens of levers in the business plan, that often is the most important lever.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Sometimes it's one of the top three, but the differential, the disagio between, the delta between what you can raise capital at, what the market will give you money at, and where you can deploy it at in acquisitions, that's a big value creator.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And it's very easy.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

They want to make money.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It's as simple as that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

They've never bought my stock because I'm handsome or I have a full set of hair, anything like that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

They bought my stock and supported me because we created Alpha and we outdid the competition and we were a great investment, made a lot of money for investors.