Brad Jacobs

How did you accomplish all this?

What are your secrets?

What did you achieve?

And I found that every time I did that, they're very generous with doing that.

Mr. Jesselman was my first big business mentor.

And he was a customer of mine, Philip Brothers, because I had Amorex, which is a oil brokerage firm.

And Philip Brothers is a big trading firm.

So I was getting oil from them and matching them together with Exxon and Shell and BP and Texaco and

Gulf and all the different major oil companies and independent refiners.

And I started doing a lot of business with them because we came out of nowhere.

And suddenly we were, after a relatively short period of time, we were doing billions of dollars of brokerage volume.

And Philip Brothers was a big player.

So naturally our paths crossed.

One day I got a call from his secretary saying, Mr. Jessison would like to have lunch with you.

I said, wow, that's a big break.

I'm in, tell me when.

So I went in and this became one of many lunches I went to New York to his office.

And during those lunches, I paid attention.

I just zeroed in on everything he said, everything he did, his nuance, his face, everything.

And I just asked him lots of questions.