Brad Milkey

Right. And so both Chad and Lori are facing charges for the murders of JJ and Tylee. We should also mention there's another victim as part of this trial, Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife at the time that Lori moved up to Idaho.

Okay, I see. And then Lori is charged with and convicted of only the conspiracy regarding Tammy. Chad, on the other hand, is charged with Tammy's murder itself. So there are so many respective spouses and there's the children. Can we get back to the kids? How do they think the children actually died?

Okay, I see. And then Lori is charged with and convicted of only the conspiracy regarding Tammy. Chad, on the other hand, is charged with Tammy's murder itself. So there are so many respective spouses and there's the children. Can we get back to the kids? How do they think the children actually died?

When we talk about Lori Vallow, I know the cases are separate, but as far as Lori Vallow Daybell, what is her defense during this trial?

When we talk about Lori Vallow, I know the cases are separate, but as far as Lori Vallow Daybell, what is her defense during this trial?

Which is within her rights, of course. But so the verdict comes in. Lori's convicted of first degree murder and the conspiracy to murder JJ and Tylee. She's only convicted of the conspiracy to murder Tammy Daybell. She's also convicted of grand theft by deception for apparently taking the Social Security benefits after their deaths. What did her sentence end up being?

Which is within her rights, of course. But so the verdict comes in. Lori's convicted of first degree murder and the conspiracy to murder JJ and Tylee. She's only convicted of the conspiracy to murder Tammy Daybell. She's also convicted of grand theft by deception for apparently taking the Social Security benefits after their deaths. What did her sentence end up being?

And then Chad is convicted of the three murders, the conspiracy of all those murders, grand theft and insurance fraud. His sentencing is different though, right?

And then Chad is convicted of the three murders, the conspiracy of all those murders, grand theft and insurance fraud. His sentencing is different though, right?

Well, and the reason we're talking about this right now is because now there's been an even more recent trial with Lori Vallow Daybell. This trial happened where you are in Arizona. What was that about?

Well, and the reason we're talking about this right now is because now there's been an even more recent trial with Lori Vallow Daybell. This trial happened where you are in Arizona. What was that about?

Obviously, the implication is that Lori was part of the ambush then.

Obviously, the implication is that Lori was part of the ambush then.

What's it like in there? What's Lori like, I suppose?

What's it like in there? What's Lori like, I suppose?

And so how did it go, I guess? How did the trial sort of play out? How did the verdict end up?

And so how did it go, I guess? How did the trial sort of play out? How did the verdict end up?

Well, and we actually have audio of this exchange between Lori and Nancy Jo in the courtroom. So Lori's the one asking the questions. Let's take a listen.

Well, and we actually have audio of this exchange between Lori and Nancy Jo in the courtroom. So Lori's the one asking the questions. Let's take a listen.

Okay.