Brandi Carlile

Yeah. And I'm just like, my favorite song growing up was Car Wheels on a Gravel Road because I just wanted to hear people approaching me. I just wanted to hear that there was constantly going to be someone in my space every day. And I have always really kind of doubled down on community or, you know, I've been accused of being extremely codependent by mystery people. LAUGHTER

And I have dealt with the reality of that probably most of my life. And it's a bit of a controversial thing. I think a lot about Joni's lyrics in that Hegira album about these pilgrimages and to flee with honor and to go and find yourself. And I get all that.

And I have dealt with the reality of that probably most of my life. And it's a bit of a controversial thing. I think a lot about Joni's lyrics in that Hegira album about these pilgrimages and to flee with honor and to go and find yourself. And I get all that.

And I have dealt with the reality of that probably most of my life. And it's a bit of a controversial thing. I think a lot about Joni's lyrics in that Hegira album about these pilgrimages and to flee with honor and to go and find yourself. And I get all that.

And it may be a controversial take on things, but I just really fundamentally don't believe, correct me, fix me later, but I don't believe people are meant to be alone. It doesn't mean you have to be in a relationship. It doesn't mean you have to be with your dysfunctional family if that's toxic for you. It just means you cannot become isolated and disenfranchised.

And it may be a controversial take on things, but I just really fundamentally don't believe, correct me, fix me later, but I don't believe people are meant to be alone. It doesn't mean you have to be in a relationship. It doesn't mean you have to be with your dysfunctional family if that's toxic for you. It just means you cannot become isolated and disenfranchised.

And it may be a controversial take on things, but I just really fundamentally don't believe, correct me, fix me later, but I don't believe people are meant to be alone. It doesn't mean you have to be in a relationship. It doesn't mean you have to be with your dysfunctional family if that's toxic for you. It just means you cannot become isolated and disenfranchised.

You have to find your people so that you have support and spiritual alignment with your fellow human beings, because it helps you. It reflects who you are back onto you. And I don't know how to live without as many people as I can get my hands on.

You have to find your people so that you have support and spiritual alignment with your fellow human beings, because it helps you. It reflects who you are back onto you. And I don't know how to live without as many people as I can get my hands on.

You have to find your people so that you have support and spiritual alignment with your fellow human beings, because it helps you. It reflects who you are back onto you. And I don't know how to live without as many people as I can get my hands on.

You know, that's so beautiful. And you are... I'm going to put you on the spot in a moment and I'm going to go on about you two and community too in a second. But I want to say one thing about people that are exhausted by community. Thank you.

You know, that's so beautiful. And you are... I'm going to put you on the spot in a moment and I'm going to go on about you two and community too in a second. But I want to say one thing about people that are exhausted by community. Thank you.

You know, that's so beautiful. And you are... I'm going to put you on the spot in a moment and I'm going to go on about you two and community too in a second. But I want to say one thing about people that are exhausted by community. Thank you.

Yeah. And me sometimes. Yeah. And it's not like a... it's not friction, it's not an inability to be with other people or acquiesce or be flexible. It's feeling too many people's feelings, taking on all that responsibility and wondering how you could possibly conserve any energy when there are so many people in the room that you really just wanna lean into.

Yeah. And me sometimes. Yeah. And it's not like a... it's not friction, it's not an inability to be with other people or acquiesce or be flexible. It's feeling too many people's feelings, taking on all that responsibility and wondering how you could possibly conserve any energy when there are so many people in the room that you really just wanna lean into.

Yeah. And me sometimes. Yeah. And it's not like a... it's not friction, it's not an inability to be with other people or acquiesce or be flexible. It's feeling too many people's feelings, taking on all that responsibility and wondering how you could possibly conserve any energy when there are so many people in the room that you really just wanna lean into.

You don't get a warning, it just... No, I think it's just that, like... And the kids know this, and Catherine knows this, and this is probably the biggest criticism that I've learned to sustain about it. It's like, Brandy's gonna Brandy.

You don't get a warning, it just... No, I think it's just that, like... And the kids know this, and Catherine knows this, and this is probably the biggest criticism that I've learned to sustain about it. It's like, Brandy's gonna Brandy.

You don't get a warning, it just... No, I think it's just that, like... And the kids know this, and Catherine knows this, and this is probably the biggest criticism that I've learned to sustain about it. It's like, Brandy's gonna Brandy.

And it's like, from the time I was a kid, if somebody would come to my house, I would answer the door with a Nintendo controller in one hand and flip the person off with the other hand and go, there's an onion in the fridge, fuck off, I'm gonna take a shower. And, like, not even, not be present. Just do whatever I was going to do anyway.