Brandon Epstein

So he had to come up with something to tell the story about how he lost for himself.

I don't even think it was malicious.

I think he was trying to cope with what is this reality now.

Yeah, there was like a minute left or something.

Yeah.

But if you do the work to rebuild it afterwards, you're stronger.

Well, I think they start by going through the process, just feeling into it.

And it's always diving into where you don't want to go, right?

It's okay.

What are the insecurities coming up now?

What are the fears coming up?

What are the doubts coming up?

Usually we try to, like, stay in our head and escape that.

It's about going into it, feeling, feeling, feeling into it, and then seeing what comes up there and even, like, writing it down and just bringing it into awareness.

Once you have awareness of it, then you can actually do something about it.

Yes.

So the first half of the book is my story.

It's kind of like, I'm trying to build rapport.

So I tell people, this is how I learned all this stuff.

This is how it worked for me.