Brandon Novak

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you're busting the suds for a while. Yeah. How did you get into the...

So you're busting the suds for a while. Yeah. How did you get into the...

That's cool.

That's cool.

Yeah, what was your, do you have any, like, when you went to any treatment centers, did you have ones that you felt like, because you hear some people, like, I placed a fucking scam, they're just fucking taking my money. Like, did you have any places you thought were just, like, churning people in and out, or do you think that's just people's, like, perception of the place?

Yeah, what was your, do you have any, like, when you went to any treatment centers, did you have ones that you felt like, because you hear some people, like, I placed a fucking scam, they're just fucking taking my money. Like, did you have any places you thought were just, like, churning people in and out, or do you think that's just people's, like, perception of the place?

Yeah, true.

Yeah, true.

Yeah, finally they fucking gave me a happy ending with a massage and they played my favorite song. That might turn me around.

Yeah, finally they fucking gave me a happy ending with a massage and they played my favorite song. That might turn me around.

You're right. That's not the deal. Yeah, true. I wish. There is a very unsexy element to it where you're saying like, yeah, you can be in like a place that people think sucks really badly. Straight up. It really is a wholly internal thing.

You're right. That's not the deal. Yeah, true. I wish. There is a very unsexy element to it where you're saying like, yeah, you can be in like a place that people think sucks really badly. Straight up. It really is a wholly internal thing.

Yeah, yeah. Straight up. What do you think about the California sobriety people do where it's like, I'm California sober. I'll drink and smoke weed and shit.

Yeah, yeah. Straight up. What do you think about the California sobriety people do where it's like, I'm California sober. I'll drink and smoke weed and shit.

yeah that makes sense so it's kind of a personal yeah timeline for everybody for sure and yeah it's like and I'm not saying that my way is the right way it's just my fucking way yeah because I know that's a big battle when I was in social work school there's like people who are like it's called like harm reduction versus people who are like

yeah that makes sense so it's kind of a personal yeah timeline for everybody for sure and yeah it's like and I'm not saying that my way is the right way it's just my fucking way yeah because I know that's a big battle when I was in social work school there's like people who are like it's called like harm reduction versus people who are like

Yeah, yeah. And that's where I'd probably be. Yeah, well, it is funny. People, I've talked about this before, but it is funny how that is like... The God talk's taboo now. Totally. Before it was like you couldn't talk about sex. Now you can be like, I'm fucking jizzing. Everyone's like, ah. But if you're like... Yeah, they had the whole B2 movement at that point. True. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And that's where I'd probably be. Yeah, well, it is funny. People, I've talked about this before, but it is funny how that is like... The God talk's taboo now. Totally. Before it was like you couldn't talk about sex. Now you can be like, I'm fucking jizzing. Everyone's like, ah. But if you're like... Yeah, they had the whole B2 movement at that point. True. Yeah.