Braxton McCoy

But, yeah, so it's been my whole life.

And, you know, I got family in the cattle industry and a lot of friends.

You know, it's a lot of time day working as a kid.

Day working, I go out and help.

move cows around or rope or doctor or whatever you need to do.

Mostly for us, it was just helping neighbors and then trying to get horses worked because that was an income source.

Do ranchers use public land?

Oh, yeah, a ton of them do.

And that's what I was going to say.

I get all uncomfortable with the word rancher.

My buddy and I have a meat-selling business.

I don't consider myself a rancher.

Cowboy, I guess.

Horseman.

I think in order to be a rancher, it's got to be your full-time gig, what makes all your money.

And it's really not that for me, but I do love it.

And I love cattle.

And as far as ranchers using the land, yeah, man.

In fact, a lot of small family ranches, which are already struggling, they'll be broken by this.

They're running, some of them, not all, but some of them are running like 90-10 deeded to undeeded acreage.