Braxton McCoy

Why can't we just have this transferred?

And I said, I know the family that runs cattle on that personally.

They're a friend of mine.

So you'd be taking food and money out of their pocket if you did this.

At least with the staff, that didn't go over particularly well.

I'm not saying it embarrassed them, but it probably did.

So that was my first interaction with the guy, who, by the way, I thought was a pretty decent guy otherwise.

We disagree strongly on this one thing, but I never thought he was a bad guy.

I mean, I've done interviews like six months ago saying, I think he's a good guy, we just disagree, and I think you're making a huge mistake.

But if you're hiring people to look into me, I don't know about the good guy thing anymore.

My opinion's starting to... And I think he probably still is a good guy.

There's just something going on here.

So that's kind of where it started.

And then I eventually, I ended up leaving that organization because I had begged them not to let this thing become a liberals who hunt organization or else it would be absolutely doomed.

And that's what they did.

Yeah, you can't.

You cannot politicize this issue publicly.

especially as a liberal, because it's the conservatives in Utah that want it, to a degree, as far as the politicians go.

In fact, while I was on that trip, one of the guys from that organization, way up in the leadership there, we were at a dinner, and he was essentially, he might have even straight up used the term, but he was calling me a baby killer.

Cause he used to be with one of these other liberal orgs that goes over to war torn areas.