Brené Brown

And talking about this situation that is completely unacceptable.

And it takes him 11 minutes of his 17-ish before he even says the word dream because he has to first make it clear that the president is not okay before people will accept his vision of a better future.

First, in his case, because they were so brutal.

But then the toggling, like here's what is, but here's what could be.

But in order to get from here to there, here's what we need to believe and do.

I mean, it's the dimensions of hope.

I think you captured it much better than I just did, but you could overlay what you just said onto the arc of that speech and it mirrors so beautifully.

Yeah, is it blind faith?

Is it delusional optimism?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've seen it over and over again.

Yeah, and I think that requires all of us then to care.

It requires all of us to care more about candor than consensus.

There's a paradox in that too, I think.

Which is, well, there's a short-term conflict between comfort and courage.

You just described one.