Brendan Vogt

Even though we didn't get it done that year.

It's like that is what truly opened it up.

And like now, you know, like you can't play him on a back-to-back.

Otherwise, he's going to hurt his hamstring.

And it's like non-contact stuff to where you're just white-knuckling watching every one of his games because he's so vital.

Yeah.

And you don't want to have this thought where it's like, oh, my God.

Like, are we...

We theoretically moved up Mike because maybe his longevity has always been in question, but he's been way more durable than Aaron Gordon has been the last several years.

Well, that's my other big question.

It's like, is it time to start having a conversation about David Adelman in this position?

Like, is his approach...

Are we seeing holes in his approach that a team that is theoretically made up, not theoretically, that is made up of veterans and guys that should be able to self-lead?

Are we seeing some holes in that philosophy?

Do we feel like David Edelman was able to pull these guys together?

I know, and...

You know, with things going bad, I mean, the conversation gets crazier and crazier, and you start going into an off-season where Nikola Jokic is not signed.

I'm just telling you, like... Go back to Serbia.

I'm just telling you, like, this is where it spirals into for people, you know?

And it's like, this is, like, why it feels so dire.