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You also have to communicate, and that's something, someone in the chat, it seems like Spencer's doing more and more, and I agree with that.

He's being more vocal.

He's also even, I think, been willing to kind of

be upset with guys at times when they aren't executing.

And so like I, at one point I recently, I think I saw him straight up yelling at Valanchunas about an error.

I think, you know, like if you want to come in here and kind of quarterback the defense.

So like, obviously it, he reads all of this.

Well, he's detail oriented, but also kind of trying to help the group stay kind of committed to that.

You know, there's room for Spencer becoming, I think a bit of a defensive leader as well.

Yes.

I completely agree with that.

It's also reached the point where, you know, there were years past when we'd get really excited when you'd see a team that

that's going small because you just think about Jokic's stat line.

Now I almost have this reaction of, is that going to challenge Denver too much defensively, right?