Brendon Burchard

Project, dude.

Entertain a little bit.

Yeah, you know, move your hands a little.

You know, I have to, now it's natural for me because I've been doing it for 20 years.

But the very beginning, everyone I grew up around was like this all the time, or they were like, you know, gonna hit you.

It was like, there was not a lot of free flowing, especially masculine expression where I was from.

And so I had to learn that.

I thought my future self, I see him differently.

I would imagine like, for example, at the time,

Being on stage, I would grip the side of the podium.

I would have three or four or five pages of notes and I would grip it.

I would be terrified.

But when I thought about a future speaking, I would see this kid walking across stage, laughing with people, calling up people, dancing and jumping to music, having a good time up there.

And I could just see him so joy, so free in expression.

And that seemed like light years away from where I was, where I'm ripping the podium, flipping the paper, sweating.

I mean, I was in an awful state.

But the idea that I could become that

when you realize expression is not about your natural ability, but expression, like all communication, is actual competency.

I was like, I can get better.

Like you've been coaching me how to be better interviewing.