Brennan Vogt

I just think, I don't know, to me, this season, I don't think anyone has had more actual, your job tonight is to guard their best players, and that's what you're doing more than anything else.

More so than Spencer?

Oh, no, I think Spencer has, for the most part.

Yeah, yeah.

Whereas I think Watson has these flashes.

Yeah, yeah.

I would say for Jamal, the argument is I think in crunch times, Jamal's been good defensively at times.

I would say across full games.

It's just not his responsibility.

A lot.

And not to be annoying, just because this is a fun conversation, I just don't think Aaron Gordon's number one this year on the defensive list.

No, it's these two guys.

I would go Peyton Watson right now.

I think there's multiple lineups he's been in, starting lineups of different parts that have been really overwhelming offensively.

I think he can fill in for AG.

I think he can fill in for Christian.

I think right now he's shooting better.

I think he figured out how to feast in those split actions.

But I think lately he's shown the ceiling as a guy who can put the ball on the floor and drive.

Maybe some of that makes the argument for him to be almost better without Jokic than he used to be.