Brent Pease

I mean, we have an 18-person team now.

While we're sitting here with you or while I'm on the bike, who's making sure the business is running?

So we're trying to get better, but we built this thing doing everything.

We literally drove the trucks and packed them and sent out the emails and we would do thank you notes and videos at nighttime to donors.

So it's evolving, but that's kind of why I've really been leaning into what I just said to you is that

there's times this year where we just got to spend some more energy on what we do from a work perspective.

And that'll free up some space when, you know, Kyle takes a break next week or I take a break to go recharge with family or friends or shoot to go ride bikes together.

Being a nonprofit, there's a great video that your listeners can look up.

It's a TED talk called The Way We Think About Nonprofits Is All Wrong.

And I make every new board member watch it.

And it's basically they talk about comp structure and the way people say, well, you know, nonprofits got to make sure you're given X percent back to mission, right?

If you don't do that, you're not a good nonprofit.

And while we don't fully think exactly like that, we're still a nonprofit that's trying to work really hard towards 80 cents of every dollar going back to the mission.

But that means that when we go hire somebody new, we've got to be thoughtful that we need somebody that's passionate about what we do because we're not going to be able to pay them

what their market rate might be as a nonprofit.

So it's looking where we have needs and figuring out, is there somebody in our network?

Because finding people who love what the mission is, like that's more critical to me than finding the person who fits the exact role.

Because if you have somebody who loves what you do and believes in it, a true believer, if you will, then they're going to be able to lean into whatever the task is and grow because they're willing to do it for the people that we serve.

But there's one more balance to that, which is as we've built out this, what we call an inclusive employment team, for every person we hire, I want another employee with a disability here.

I want to continue to grow that because it's providing real meaning to these individuals that work for us.