Brent Young

But, of course, the world's population was a lot smaller.

So this is one of the wicked challenges that we have in climate change.

How do we decarbonize these industries?

And it's not just the industry.

We can't say it's a big, big industry.

They are providing products that we, the consumers, all want.

So, yeah, it's a wicked problem.

I would suspect a very small amount of our food would actually have petroleum-derived product.

Where it's used is petroleum is used as a source for energy.

So industry process heat for utilities for heating stuff up, and we need to do that in food processing.

For example, Fonterra, to dry milk, to produce milk powder and send it overseas,

requires a lot of energy.

Currently, a lot of that, industrially, all of that energy comes from fossil fuels.

So that's the energy component of food and other products as well, which is affected.

If we are using diesel from overseas as an energy input into processing or in transportation or other production type operations, I'm thinking of something like forestry, for example, then that whole sector is obviously at risk.

Yeah, absolutely.

Actually, if you even think of the container that the cleaning products come in.

So we're all familiar with the terms of, you know, our plastic types, you know, polyethylene, polyvinyl chloride, PVC, most people would know it as.

Those are polymerized products from petroleum.

They're secondary processing that takes the chemical produced from refining of crude oil and then further reacts and refines it to produce the plastic products.