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The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

Adjust manageable difficulty.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

I mean, it's supposed to be describing a challenge that's right at the edge of your capability so that it pushes you, it stretches you, but it doesn't overwhelm, overload, or injure you.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

And I think we seem to be increasingly living in a world that is afraid to confront those kinds of challenges.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

And I think our universities are responding to that right now by saying, well, we can't ever tell students they didn't do good work or else they might feel bad.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

Oh, no, it doesn't, right, because we have to please the paying customer who signed up for our classes with an A, right?

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

Yeah, we can.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

Well, first of all, does everyone, do our listeners, do they know what happened?

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

We can try.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

Well, I mean, this, this conversation has been going on since I was an undergrad.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

There was a, there was a professor named, uh, people called him Harvey C minus Mansfield because he gave a lot of C minuses and he, he would, he railed against great inflation constantly.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

And I thought this was a paradox and I still do.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

On the one hand, if everybody's getting A's, you can start to wonder if the class is too easy and if people are being challenged enough.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

On the other hand, I think more than 20% of Harvard students are A students.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

And so setting an arbitrary bar, a limit, a ceiling on how many can excel in a given class seems ridiculous to me.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

And frankly, as a professor, I want as many of my students as possible to master the material.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

And so the way that I've navigated this in my own courses for years is I give extremely hard exams.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

And the mean on them is often a 65 or 70%.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

But then I curve upward so that the student who does best is at 100.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

And then everybody is adjusted from there.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Exploring the Paradoxes of Human Nature

And that creates a real distribution based on who has really learned the material of the class.