Brené Brown

That's a ragged, that's a ragged edged break on that marble jar.

And it just happens over time and every other people think that they're nuts and it makes them question their own judgment.

I'll just start by saying I think therapy, couples work is like so incredibly powerful and helpful.

I think the Gottman's work is,

is really like we read the Gottman's work together sometimes.

So I think that's helpful.

Oh yeah, no, for sure.

No, I was willing.

Oh really, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I struggle with vulnerability, but I really respect humility in people so much that even if I'm not feeling humility, I will fake humility and be like, I need help.

And then I'll say, shit, this is real.

This is hard.

They got my number.

I'm like, damn.

They just called a thing a thing and it hurt my feelers.

But I guess the biggest thing is that neither Steve nor I had any modeling of what a healthy relationship looked like at all.

And

I think one commitment we made is to just keep showing up.

I think these are the three commitments.