Bret Easton Ellis
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Well, I'll get into it.
We'll get into that in a second.
But I do want to know about that.
But here's an interesting โ here's psychologically.
So we elected our first black president, and I feel like there's been more โ
racial conversations over the last five years than we've ever had before.
And I feel like a lot of the usual suspects have doubled down on it because they almost felt like, oh, well, if we've elected a black president, then how and you keep beating this racism drum.
How's that going to work?
I mean, what if you were just pitching this in another country?
Where you just took another country and you went, well, there's the Sunnis and the Kurds and they're very blah, blah.
But they elected one of these guys.
We'd go, well, why?
Then they're not.
So if we if somehow Hillary Clinton gets elected.
I suspect there's going to be four years of feminist talk.
We could get on a feel-good roll.
I mean, I hope we do what's smart and what's wise.
Yeah, but we're not wired that way.
I would like that.
So would I. But I think we're more wired to pat ourselves on the back and feel good about ourselves.