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Bret Weinstein

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

The wing of a bat evolved from the foot of a terrestrial or arboreal, meaning tree-dwelling, mammal like a shrew.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

So I sent Jamie a picture of a shrew's foot.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

Maybe we should just put it up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

So what we'll look at is the foot of a shrew, and it won't surprise you at all.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

It looks exactly as you would expect.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

It's got, you know, digits, and it looks like every other mammal's foot.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

Okay, now let's take a look at the wing of a bat.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

So here we have the wing of a bat.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

Now that wing is a highly modified front foot.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

The ribs that hold the membrane, what we call the patagia, apart are highly elongated fingers.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

So what you're seeing are the phalanges of that little shrew's foot elongated, very much so.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

Now, what the evo-devo folks will tell you, and they are right about this, is that the difference between that bat's wing and its fingers and that shrew's foot and its toes is not a molecular difference.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

There may be molecular differences between the foot and the wing, but you could build that wing and that foot out of the very same molecules.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

what you're doing is distributing them differently.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

You have different amounts of molecules distributed in different ways to make these elaborate structures from the primitive structures.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

What I realized more than 25 years ago, many people who've heard you and me talk before will have heard us talk about my work on telomeres.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2427 - Bret Weinstein

So telomeres, you'll remember, are structures at the end of every chromosome that are not genes.