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Bret Weinstein

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

To see what's going to happen, you really want to start thinking of this as the evolution of a new species that will continue to evolve. It will partially be shaped by what we ask it to do, the direction we lead it. And it will partially be shaped by things we don't understand. So... How does this computer that we have work? Well, one of the things that it does is we plug them into each other.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

To see what's going to happen, you really want to start thinking of this as the evolution of a new species that will continue to evolve. It will partially be shaped by what we ask it to do, the direction we lead it. And it will partially be shaped by things we don't understand. So... How does this computer that we have work? Well, one of the things that it does is we plug them into each other.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

Using language, it's almost as if you've plugged an Ethernet cable in between human minds. And that means that the cognitive potential exceeds the sum of the individual minds in question.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

Using language, it's almost as if you've plugged an Ethernet cable in between human minds. And that means that the cognitive potential exceeds the sum of the individual minds in question.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

Your AIs are going to do that. And that means that our ability to say what they are capable of does not come down to, well, we didn't train it on that data. As they begin to interact, that feedback is going to take them to capabilities we don't anticipate and may not even recognize once they become present. That's one of my fears. This is an evolving creature and... It's not even an animal.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

Your AIs are going to do that. And that means that our ability to say what they are capable of does not come down to, well, we didn't train it on that data. As they begin to interact, that feedback is going to take them to capabilities we don't anticipate and may not even recognize once they become present. That's one of my fears. This is an evolving creature and... It's not even an animal.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

If it were an animal, you could say something about what the limits of that capability are. But this is a new type of biological creature, and it will become capable of things that we don't even have names for.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

If it were an animal, you could say something about what the limits of that capability are. But this is a new type of biological creature, and it will become capable of things that we don't even have names for.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

Well, but I hear in what both of you are saying a kind of assumption that this will all be done on the up and up. And I do want to Just, I am not a doomer. I agree that the doomers are likely incorrect, that their fears are misplaced. But I do think we have a question of a related rates problem. You know, I said the potential for good here is infinite, and the potential for bad is 10 times, right?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

Well, but I hear in what both of you are saying a kind of assumption that this will all be done on the up and up. And I do want to Just, I am not a doomer. I agree that the doomers are likely incorrect, that their fears are misplaced. But I do think we have a question of a related rates problem. You know, I said the potential for good here is infinite, and the potential for bad is 10 times, right?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

What I mean is... There are lots of ways in which this obviously empowers people to do things that they were going to be otherwise stuck in the mundane process of learning to code and then figuring out how to make the code work and bring it to market and all of that. And this solves a lot of those problems. And that's obviously a good thing.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

What I mean is... There are lots of ways in which this obviously empowers people to do things that they were going to be otherwise stuck in the mundane process of learning to code and then figuring out how to make the code work and bring it to market and all of that. And this solves a lot of those problems. And that's obviously a good thing.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

Really, what we should want is the wealth creation object as quickly as we can get there. But the problem is, you know, as much as it โ€“ that hyper-creative individual is empowered to make wealth, the person who is interested in stealing may be even more empowered. And I'm concerned about that at a pretty high level.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

Really, what we should want is the wealth creation object as quickly as we can get there. But the problem is, you know, as much as it โ€“ that hyper-creative individual is empowered to make wealth, the person who is interested in stealing may be even more empowered. And I'm concerned about that at a pretty high level.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

The abuse cases may outnumber the use cases, and we don't have a plan for what to do about that.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

The abuse cases may outnumber the use cases, and we don't have a plan for what to do about that.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

I don't know how much abuse we've seen so far. I don't know how any of us do. And I also โ€“ even the example that you suggest where chat GPT is no longer open source to prevent abuse. I'm taking their word for it that that's the motivation where as a systems theorist, I would say, well โ€“

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

I don't know how much abuse we've seen so far. I don't know how any of us do. And I also โ€“ even the example that you suggest where chat GPT is no longer open source to prevent abuse. I'm taking their word for it that that's the motivation where as a systems theorist, I would say, well โ€“

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

If you had a technology that was excellent at enhancing your capacity to wield power, then open sourcing it is a failure to capitalize on that and that the most remunerative use is to keep it private and then either sell the ability to manipulate elections to people who want to do so or sell the ability to have it kept off the table for people who don't.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI AGENTS EMERGENCY DEBATE: These Jobs Won't Exist In 24 Months! Containment Has Failed, We Must Prepare For What's Coming!

If you had a technology that was excellent at enhancing your capacity to wield power, then open sourcing it is a failure to capitalize on that and that the most remunerative use is to keep it private and then either sell the ability to manipulate elections to people who want to do so or sell the ability to have it kept off the table for people who don't.