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Brett Evans

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

If the balance is, you know, say 50,000 pounds, the cost of going through that whole process may not be worth it.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

Don't forget too, you've got the situation where the ATO give you six months to move pensions into Australia.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

And after that, they'll tax you on any growth post that period.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

So if you don't.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

Look, I mean, if you've got a 500, 700 million pound pension fund, it does make sense.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

Yeah.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

Because in the UK, they tax in pension phase, not an accumulation phase.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

So if you work in the UK for 20 years and build up quite a big pension and

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

and then you move back to australia say age 60 you've now passed the 55 release mechanism in the uk you can do a transfer from the uk to australia and then essentially you've had this nice tax-free growth in the uk on your pension and then you move to australia and you have tax-free growth in pension phase in australia the catch is the same contributions that still apply

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

So 120K on the non-concessional three-year rules and all those things are the same as well too.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

But people find it very difficult to try and shoehorn a large balance into super over a very short amount of time because that money can only go from your UK pension to your Australian super account.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

Look, I mean, it depends on the person.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

It really depends on the person.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

So you've got places like Denmark, for example, that do unrealised capital gains tax on foreign ETFs.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

So if you hold VAS and all the favourites of the Australian market in terms of ETFs,

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

and move to Copenhagen, they would do a mark-to-market on your ETF and taxi that way.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

Their tax rates are quite high.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

There's an expat version as well too.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

They do have a local pension, but it's not portable.

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923 the expat's handbook: super, shares, tax & coming home with Brett Evans

So sometimes clients end up gathering pension accounts like baseball cards if they've moved around a bit.