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Brian Armstrong

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Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

give their status updates and sort of the information will go up a layer and that layer will consolidate up to another orchestrator.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

And so I sort of ascribe more to the polytheist view, which is even as these agents get smarter and smarter, they'll have to specialize, communicate to get work done in swarms.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

And that means there's gonna be a whole agentic economy to basically transfer value and payroll and hire these different specialists.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

And eventually the AI economy will be bigger than the human economy.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

Yeah, I think that's that's probably correct.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

Yeah, and you're right that Bitcoin mining does take a certain amount of chips and energy.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

I think those are the limiting factors as we go on this AI race.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

And so the ASICs that people use to mine Bitcoin are...

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

You can't do AI workloads with them.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

But like in the broadest sense, are they both competing for energy?

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

Yes.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

Are they competing for what the next set of chips that might roll off a fab at TSMC?

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

Yes, they are in that sense.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

So, yeah, I think I think there is some some scarcity there between them.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

And, you know, certain chains like Ethereum have actually moved off of proof of work.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

So it's like ninety nine point nine percent more energy efficient using proof of stake.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

And so they aren't maybe subject to some of those same tradeoffs that Bitcoin is.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

Yeah, I mean, I hadn't actually seen that until you just put it on the screen here, but...

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

Yeah, some of the charts I've seen, like if you imagine that it follows prior cycles, it's like by October or so, things will be going in a positive direction.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Brian Armstrong on Bitcoin, Anthropic Drops Fable 5 & Mythos 5, NewLimit's $435M Age-Reversal | EP #264

So where exactly it lands, I don't know.