Brian Batko

One, you've got one of the leading places in this right in your backyard in Carnegie Mellon.

They churn out people like that.

year after year who are winning the NFL data science competitions and things of that nature.

But also Mike Tomlin had a guy like that on his staff.

Karim Kassam was his name.

And that was, I think the person who was credited with his sort of cutting edge move of let's go for two more often and early in games and try to,

get a competitive edge that way if the numbers make sense.

And then they sort of got away from that over the years.

But, you know, that's it is one of those interesting matters in the NFL.

People's mileage will vary on how much that can help you.

We've seen it, I think, backfire on some people to Brandon Staley comes to mind with the Chargers where Dan Campbell, but Dan Campbell is, I think, sort of held up as a

I don't know, but good user of it.

I mean, people praise his aggressiveness more often than not.

Yeah.

I'm always one of those people who thinks it's more about the process than the result.

It's very easy to say if a play doesn't work, stupid decision.

If a play does work, great move.

Way to be aggressive.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think so.