Brian Buckmeyer

I'm back with Tanya Simpson. She's the coordinating producer for ABC's investigative unit and someone who's been in the courtroom paying very close attention to what's unfolding and where debriefing on what we observed.

So I think when I watch trials, I watch them a little differently than the average person, which I also think is somewhat at a bit of a disadvantage because at the end of the day, it's not an attorney who decides guilt or innocence. It's everyday citizens who sign up and choose to be jurors. But when I listened to the testimony yesterday, And I watched the jurors.

So I think when I watch trials, I watch them a little differently than the average person, which I also think is somewhat at a bit of a disadvantage because at the end of the day, it's not an attorney who decides guilt or innocence. It's everyday citizens who sign up and choose to be jurors. But when I listened to the testimony yesterday, And I watched the jurors.

I'm thinking, here is the square hole. This is the peg that the government is trying to fit into it. And is it fitting? Is a square peg too big? Is it a circular peg? Is a triangular peg? Whatever it is. And I would say in the first day of Cassie's testimony, it didn't feel like this peg was fitting correctly into the hole.

I'm thinking, here is the square hole. This is the peg that the government is trying to fit into it. And is it fitting? Is a square peg too big? Is it a circular peg? Is a triangular peg? Whatever it is. And I would say in the first day of Cassie's testimony, it didn't feel like this peg was fitting correctly into the hole.

So I think when I watch trials, I watch them a little differently than the average person, which I also think is somewhat at a bit of a disadvantage because at the end of the day, it's not an attorney who decides guilt or innocence. It's everyday citizens who sign up and choose to be jurors. But when I listened to the testimony yesterday, And I watched the jurors.

So I think when I watch trials, I watch them a little differently than the average person, which I also think is somewhat at a bit of a disadvantage because at the end of the day, it's not an attorney who decides guilt or innocence. It's everyday citizens who sign up and choose to be jurors. But when I listened to the testimony yesterday, And I watched the jurors.

So I think when I watch trials, I watch them a little differently than the average person, which I also think is somewhat at a bit of a disadvantage because at the end of the day, it's not an attorney who decides guilt or innocence. It's everyday citizens who sign up and choose to be jurors. But when I listened to the testimony yesterday, And I watched the jurors.

And the reason for that is, is as a former public defender at the Legal Aid Society in Brooklyn, I've represented people who have been victims of domestic violence, victims of sex trafficking, people who have sex trafficked others. And I say, listen to it. I was like, does this sound like domestic violence or does it sound like trafficking?

And the reason for that is, is as a former public defender at the Legal Aid Society in Brooklyn, I've represented people who have been victims of domestic violence, victims of sex trafficking, people who have sex trafficked others. And I say, listen to it. I was like, does this sound like domestic violence or does it sound like trafficking?

I'm thinking, here is the square hole. This is the peg that the government is trying to fit into it. And is it fitting? Is a square peg too big? Is it a circular peg? Is a triangular peg? Whatever it is. And I would say in the first day of Cassie's testimony, it didn't feel like this peg was fitting correctly into the hole.

I'm thinking, here is the square hole. This is the peg that the government is trying to fit into it. And is it fitting? Is a square peg too big? Is it a circular peg? Is a triangular peg? Whatever it is. And I would say in the first day of Cassie's testimony, it didn't feel like this peg was fitting correctly into the hole.

I'm thinking, here is the square hole. This is the peg that the government is trying to fit into it. And is it fitting? Is a square peg too big? Is it a circular peg? Is a triangular peg? Whatever it is. And I would say in the first day of Cassie's testimony, it didn't feel like this peg was fitting correctly into the hole.

And then the first day I was like, these sound like the elements of a crime that would be more in line with domestic violence from the facts that we were hearing. But on the second day of testimony, that's when I started to hear testimony and evidence. And also the way that Cassie was talking about Sean Combs, I was like, I've heard this tone before. I have heard this type of conversation before.

And then the first day I was like, these sound like the elements of a crime that would be more in line with domestic violence from the facts that we were hearing. But on the second day of testimony, that's when I started to hear testimony and evidence. And also the way that Cassie was talking about Sean Combs, I was like, I've heard this tone before. I have heard this type of conversation before.

And the reason for that is, is as a former public defender at the Legal Aid Society in Brooklyn, I've represented people who have been victims of domestic violence, victims of sex trafficking, people who have sex trafficked others. And I say, listen to it. I was like, does this sound like domestic violence or does it sound like trafficking?

And the reason for that is, is as a former public defender at the Legal Aid Society in Brooklyn, I've represented people who have been victims of domestic violence, victims of sex trafficking, people who have sex trafficked others. And I say, listen to it. I was like, does this sound like domestic violence or does it sound like trafficking?

And the reason for that is, is as a former public defender at the Legal Aid Society in Brooklyn, I've represented people who have been victims of domestic violence, victims of sex trafficking, people who have sex trafficked others. And I say, listen to it. I was like, does this sound like domestic violence or does it sound like trafficking?

I have heard these elements before. And that's when I started to piece together, I think they're getting closer to the trafficking allegations. Now I say closer because they still need to have individuals come forward and testify to say, I was part of this criminal enterprise. Sean Combe did this intentionally for the purpose of trafficking. This wasn't just a violent relationship.

I have heard these elements before. And that's when I started to piece together, I think they're getting closer to the trafficking allegations. Now I say closer because they still need to have individuals come forward and testify to say, I was part of this criminal enterprise. Sean Combe did this intentionally for the purpose of trafficking. This wasn't just a violent relationship.