Brian Cox

I mean, it is in some technical sense. It has to be.

The universe is everything, including God, if God is a real thing. If you define God as the creator, then you're right. From some point that we don't understand, by the way, the Big Bang, we don't even understand whether that was the origin of the universe, by the way. We understand that something interesting happened. What is Sir Roger Penrose's... He has an infinite cyclical universe. Yes.

The universe is everything, including God, if God is a real thing. If you define God as the creator, then you're right. From some point that we don't understand, by the way, the Big Bang, we don't even understand whether that was the origin of the universe, by the way. We understand that something interesting happened. What is Sir Roger Penrose's... He has an infinite cyclical universe. Yes.

The universe is everything, including God, if God is a real thing. If you define God as the creator, then you're right. From some point that we don't understand, by the way, the Big Bang, we don't even understand whether that was the origin of the universe, by the way. We understand that something interesting happened. What is Sir Roger Penrose's... He has an infinite cyclical universe. Yes.

And he's trying to answer... Questions about the very special state of the early universe and why it was the way that it was.

And he's trying to answer... Questions about the very special state of the early universe and why it was the way that it was.

And he's trying to answer... Questions about the very special state of the early universe and why it was the way that it was.

It doesn't recontract. It's called, what's it called, conformal cosmology or cyclical conformal cosmology or something. So it's essentially that... And I don't fully understand it. And I have asked him about it with some colleagues, actually. If you can't understand it, we're fucked. No, I don't think many of us understand what he... I mean, Roger Penner is one of the greats, right?

It doesn't recontract. It's called, what's it called, conformal cosmology or cyclical conformal cosmology or something. So it's essentially that... And I don't fully understand it. And I have asked him about it with some colleagues, actually. If you can't understand it, we're fucked. No, I don't think many of us understand what he... I mean, Roger Penner is one of the greats, right?

It doesn't recontract. It's called, what's it called, conformal cosmology or cyclical conformal cosmology or something. So it's essentially that... And I don't fully understand it. And I have asked him about it with some colleagues, actually. If you can't understand it, we're fucked. No, I don't think many of us understand what he... I mean, Roger Penner is one of the greats, right?

So you listen to him and take him very seriously. But I haven't met anyone who quite understands what he's talking about in that. But... But it doesn't recontract. It's not one of those models where the universe expands and then recontracts and bounces like that. It's not one of those.

So you listen to him and take him very seriously. But I haven't met anyone who quite understands what he's talking about in that. But... But it doesn't recontract. It's not one of those models where the universe expands and then recontracts and bounces like that. It's not one of those.

So you listen to him and take him very seriously. But I haven't met anyone who quite understands what he's talking about in that. But... But it doesn't recontract. It's not one of those models where the universe expands and then recontracts and bounces like that. It's not one of those.

It's somehow, he argues, that when you get to what we usually call the heat death of the universe, where even the black holes have evaporated away. you have conditions that begin to look perhaps like an origin of the universe again. And I can't really fully explain it because I don't really understand what he's trying to say, right?

It's somehow, he argues, that when you get to what we usually call the heat death of the universe, where even the black holes have evaporated away. you have conditions that begin to look perhaps like an origin of the universe again. And I can't really fully explain it because I don't really understand what he's trying to say, right?

It's somehow, he argues, that when you get to what we usually call the heat death of the universe, where even the black holes have evaporated away. you have conditions that begin to look perhaps like an origin of the universe again. And I can't really fully explain it because I don't really understand what he's trying to say, right?

Yeah, it kind of looks like conformal means there are no...

Yeah, it kind of looks like conformal means there are no...

Yeah, it kind of looks like conformal means there are no...

sort of distances or time measurements or anything in the universe it kind of loses all sense of scale and then you could you could reimagine that as looking somewhat like the beginning it's something like that that he has in mind but i really couldn't explain to you i don't understand what what he's what he's proposing wow so it but what it does tell you is that we don't know